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bob jenkins Sun Dec 15, 2013 06:00pm
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 914456)
I mean, what if in this case the console didn't show the time? How do you proceed? Do you allow a catch and shoot?
Then, yes, you allow the catch-and-shoot.

What you don't do is declare the quarter over.

BryanV21 Sun Dec 15, 2013 06:03pm
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 914457)
Then, yes, you allow the catch-and-shoot.

What you don't do is declare the quarter over.
ok

just another ref Sun Dec 15, 2013 06:13pm
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 914456)
...... the console did not display the time, making it impossible to determine if a ball could be caught before a field goal try. So it was decided that the quarter was over with.
Obviously whether there can be a catch or not is very important, but just as obvious is this is not a determining factor of whether the quarter is over. If the clock shows .2, you know there cannot be a catch and shoot, but.......

JetMetFan Sun Dec 15, 2013 06:13pm
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 914448)
In the case you brought up the ball is already in play, so go by the horn. But the OP says the ball is dead at the time in question. If, at that time, the clock shows zeroes, then that's it.

Like I said, there is no differentiating between consoles that show tenths of a second and those that do not, so you're just making things up if you allow it.
That's *not* it. The order is LED lights/red light then horn. Zeroes on the clock does *not* = end of a quarter if one of those other devices hasn't gone off regardless of whether the visible clock shows tenths of a second. (NFHS 1-14, 5-6-2)

Regarding the use of the console to determine the exact time, don't. If the visible clock doesn't show tenths of a second then the 0.3 catch/shoot rule doesn't apply for that game (NFHS 5-2-5 Note)

OKREF Sun Dec 15, 2013 09:53pm
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 914451)
Well s#&%! LOL

That doesn't make sense, though. How do you determine if an offensive rebounder can attempt a shot by catching first or simply by tapping the ball? Unless, the scoreboard console shows tenths of a second? Which the book doesn't describe. I mean, is the rule different in different gyms? Seems like that should be covered.
You make sure you watch the play and see if the shot gets off before the horn. At this point we have to earn our stripes and be aware.

just another ref Sun Dec 15, 2013 09:57pm
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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 914508)
You make sure you watch the play and see if the shot gets off before the horn. At this point we have to earn our stripes and be aware.
And if the clock shows zeros count: one-one thousand and blow the whistle. The quarter is over.


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