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JerryP707 Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:06pm

Can coaches "buy" a player's way back in to the game
 
Just starting out....and have a question. If a player:

1. Has blood on their person and is instructed to leave the game....can the coach call a time-out to get the player back into the game after the blood has been cleaned?

2. Has been injured to a point where play has been stopped, can a coach call a timeout to keep the player in the game?

constable Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:27pm

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Originally Posted by JerryP707 (Post 911931)
Just starting out....and have a question. If a player:

1. Has blood on their person and is instructed to leave the game....can the coach call a time-out to get the player back into the game after the blood has been cleaned?

2. Has been injured to a point where play has been stopped, can a coach call a timeout to keep the player in the game?


Yes

These situations are covered in the rule and case books.

Have a look!

JetMetFan Tue Nov 26, 2013 01:50am

Be nice. He may not have received his rule book yet or he may not know where to find the info.

NFHS 3-3-6
A player who has been injured to the extent that the coach or any other bench personnel is beckoned and comes onto the court shall be directed to leave the game, unless a time-out is requested by, and granted to, his/her team and the situation can be corrected by the end of the time-out.


NFHS 3-3-7
A player who is bleeding, has an open wound, has any amount of blood on his/her uniform, or has blood on his/her person, shall be directed to leave the game until the bleeding is stopped, the wound is covered, the uniform and/or body is appropriately cleaned, and/or the uniform is changed before returning to competition, unless a time-out is requested by, and granted to, his/her team and the situation can be corrected by the end of the time-out.

NOTES: (ARTS. 6, 7)
1. If players from both teams are directed to leave the game because of injury/blood, both teams must request and be granted a time-out in order to keep each player in the game, as in 5-11-8.

2. A time-out granted to keep a player in the game must be requested before the replacement interval begins.

bob jenkins Tue Nov 26, 2013 09:25am

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Originally Posted by constable (Post 911932)
Yes

On #1, it depends on the timing -- the question isn't quite clear on that.

BigT Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:36am

My question on this is how much blood on the uniform do you allow? A speck of blood ok? Quarter sized stain on the uniform ok? A fist sized spot? I had a kid in a AAU game that had a fist sized blood stain on his jersey.

I remember reading here years ago that no blood should be on the jersey. I wanted to ask you vets where you draw the line.

By the above mentioned rules I can't be clear.

tjones1 Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:42am

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Originally Posted by BigT (Post 911984)
My question on this is how much blood on the uniform do you allow? A speck of blood ok? Quarter sized stain on the uniform ok? A fist sized spot? I had a kid in a AAU game that had a fist sized blood stain on his jersey.

I remember reading here years ago that no blood should be on the jersey. I wanted to ask you vets where you draw the line.

By the above mentioned rules I can't be clear.

None.

3-3-7

A player who is bleeding, has an open wound, has any amount of blood on his/her uniform, or has blood on his/her person, shall be directed to leave the game until the bleeding is stopped, the wound is covered, the uniform and/or body is appropriately cleaned, and/or the uniform is changed before returning to competition, unless a time-out is requested by, and granted to, his/her team and the situation can be corrected by the end of the time-out.

BigT Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:48am

Visual blood on the uniform Rec,HS, College etc you tell them it has to be cleaned.

Thanks man.

bob jenkins Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:51am

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Originally Posted by BigT (Post 911988)
Visual blood on the uniform Rec,HS, College etc you tell them it has to be cleaned.

Thanks man.

Not true in College -- the trainer can assess the uniform to see if it's saturated. A "fist sized spot" almost certainly will be.

Johnny Ringo Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:58pm

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 911940)

2. A time-out granted to keep a player in the game must be requested before the replacement interval begins.

Before replacement interval begins. When exactly is this?

BigCat Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:13am

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 972762)
Before replacement interval begins. When exactly is this?

When player has blood I go to coach and say "coach he has blood. Do you want to replace him or call a timeout to see if it can be fixed during the time out so you can keep him in?" If he says he is going to replace him then start clock. Player must be replaced. Can't change mind and say timeout.

If coach says he wants the timeout then they have til end of it to fix blood. If it still isn't fixed they need to replace player.

Johnny Ringo Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:16am

In a non blood situation? Simply tending to a play who is down. The coach wants to keep player in the game, but is beckoned onto the floor. When does timeout have to be requested in order for player to remain in game?

BigCat Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:24am

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 972764)
In a non blood situation? Simply tending to a play who is down. The coach wants to keep player in the game, but is beckoned onto the floor. When does timeout have to be requested in order for player to remain in game?

When the player is down you can ask him if he is ok. Don't rush him, at all. If he isn't ready in pretty short order Or if a coach or trainer comes on floor, he must be replaced or timeout called. Once he is off floor and coach can turn attention to game you do the same thing as blood." Do you want to replace or call timeout to see if he can get ready to play.

Again, don't rush the player or team to move him. Also, don't play doctor. The law favors sports officials but this is one area you can get into trouble.

Rich Mon Dec 14, 2015 01:58am

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 972764)
In a non blood situation? Simply tending to a play who is down. The coach wants to keep player in the game, but is beckoned onto the floor. When does timeout have to be requested in order for player to remain in game?


Before I start the 20-second clock.

Raymond Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:05am

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 972764)
In a non blood situation? Simply tending to a play who is down. The coach wants to keep player in the game, but is beckoned onto the floor. When does timeout have to be requested in order for player to remain in game?

Blood and injury are treated differently .

bob jenkins Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:22am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 972786)
Blood and injury are treated differently .

In HS? How so? As a practical matter, even the timing of the coach's choice and the start of the replacement interval is the same.


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