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The_Rookie Sun Nov 24, 2013 08:35pm

Duke-Vermont Video Clip Request (Clip Added)
 
Duke Vermont Video Clip Request..2nd half about 11.0 seconds left..Vermont player shoots a 3 and Duke defender falls to ground and airborne Vermont Player lands on Duke player on floor and falls.

Question: NFHS Ruling and NCAA Ruling.

Thanks!

JetMetFan Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:10pm

I just watched it. There shouldn’t be any difference in codes. It’s a block on B1 since he didn’t allow A1 a spot to come down.

AremRed Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:27am

Different, but similar situation:

A1 is dribbling the ball. B1 is on the ground. A1 trips over B1 either while dribbling or gathering/holding the ball. NFHS = travel (provided he travelled by rule), NCAA = block. Correct?

just another ref Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 911840)
Different, but similar situation:

A1 is dribbling the ball. B1 is on the ground. A1 trips over B1 either while dribbling or gathering/holding the ball. NFHS = travel (provided he travelled by rule), NCAA = block. Correct?

NFHS: It would depend on how/when/ where B1 got on the ground.

johnny d Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 911840)
Different, but similar situation:

A1 is dribbling the ball. B1 is on the ground. A1 trips over B1 either while dribbling or gathering/holding the ball. NFHS = travel (provided he travelled by rule), NCAA = block. Correct?


It is impossible to travel if you are dribbling the ball.

Camron Rust Mon Nov 25, 2013 01:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 911841)
NFHS: It would depend on how/when/ where B1 got on the ground.

Agree.

APG Mon Nov 25, 2013 01:20am

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Camron Rust Mon Nov 25, 2013 03:12am

Now that I've seen the video, that should be a foul at all levels. It is a dangerous play and should be penalized every time.

Indianaref Mon Nov 25, 2013 08:38am

This play is a no brainer, just a reminder to always protect the shooter.

BEAREF Mon Nov 25, 2013 08:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 911850)
Now that I've seen the video, that should be a foul at all levels. It is a dangerous play and should be penalized every time.

How many free throws?

johnny d Mon Nov 25, 2013 09:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEAREF (Post 911855)
How many free throws?

6, how many do you think? The shot went in, the answer to your question is pretty straight forward and simple.

bob jenkins Mon Nov 25, 2013 09:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEAREF (Post 911855)
How many free throws?

Are you implying that it might have been a F1 (or F2, or I or F in HS) foul?

BryanV21 Mon Nov 25, 2013 01:13pm

Yeah, the Duke player landed and rolled under the shooter. The Duke player may not have meant to, but it doesn't matter. Good call by the official.

Camron Rust Mon Nov 25, 2013 01:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEAREF (Post 911855)
How many free throws?

If the shot goes in, 1, if not 3.

It is definitely not a FF1/FF2 unless I felt he did it on purpose in an attempt to hurt the shooter and I'm not going to split hairs over whether one of the shooter's toes touched down before actually contacting the defender.

j51969 Mon Nov 25, 2013 01:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by indianaref (Post 911853)
this play is a no brainer, just a reminder to always protect the shooter.

+1


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