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Old Sat Aug 09, 2003, 03:21pm
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Correct me if im wrong. My dog got ahold of my officlas manual last night and I havnt gotten around to ordering my new ones yet. (Next weeks paycheck will fix that). Came up in a game tonight. If im trail i have the lane on the opposite side of me andd the shot? and Lead has opposite of the lan from him and the SHOOTER!? right?

Correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure thats how its handeld. Kid supposdily stepped over the line . ididnt seei t cuz i was following the shot. and he said i shoulda been watching the feet of the shooter. I just raised my eyebrows and said Ok thanks coach and kept going.

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Old Sat Aug 09, 2003, 03:25pm
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T has the shooter and the players on the opposite side of the lane, plus the players entering from outside the 3 point arc before the ball hits the iron.
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Old Sat Aug 09, 2003, 07:19pm
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ididnt seei t cuz i was following the shot.
Why? There's no reason to follow the shot, the ball isn't going to violate or foul someone.

Just like the last thread, watch the players, not the ball. If you're watching the ball, you'll either be looking in your partner's area or you won't be looking in your area.
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I think some officials, especially newer officials, tend to think the Trail position in a 2-whistle game is the place to relax and unwind a little before they have to bust their hump and get back to Lead to do the real officiating. They don't realize how much the Trail official is responsible for in a 2-whistle game.

When I review the Trail position responsibilities for free throws with our new trainees, they tend to get a little wide-eyed and say, "I have to look at all that?" As Mick would say, yU.P.

Trail has, as his/her primary responsibilities:

1) Indicating correct number of free throws to table and benches
2) Opposite lane line violations
3) Free thrower violations
4) Violations by players outside 3-point arc
5) Flight of the ball, which includes:
-->a) ball hitting/missing the ring
-->b) goaltending
-->c) basket interference
6) Rebounding:
-->a) weak side (near side)
-->b) back side (around FT line)

Just something to keep in mind. Did I leave anything out?
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Old Sun Aug 10, 2003, 10:44am
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I think some officials, especially newer officials, tend to think the Trail position in a 2-whistle game is the place to relax and unwind a little before they have to bust their hump and get back to Lead to do the real officiating. They don't realize how much the Trail official is responsible for in a 2-whistle game.

When I review the Trail position responsibilities for free throws with our new trainees, they tend to get a little wide-eyed and say, "I have to look at all that?" As Mick would say, yU.P.

Trail has, as his/her primary responsibilities:

1) Indicating correct number of free throws to table and benches
2) Opposite lane line violations
3) Free thrower violations
4) Violations by players outside 3-point arc
5) Flight of the ball, which includes:
-->a) ball hitting/missing the ring
-->b) goaltending
-->c) basket interference
6) Rebounding:
-->a) weak side (near side)
-->b) back side (around FT line)

Just something to keep in mind. Did I leave anything out?
Trail has the best view of table situations; also, Trail has primary for the stands to determine exactly which fan is being the most obnoxious.
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Old Sun Aug 10, 2003, 03:38pm
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Ok so i had the right amount of thinking EXCEPT for how long I watch the shooter... Gracias amigo.
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Old Sun Aug 10, 2003, 04:39pm
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Ok so i had the right amount of thinking EXCEPT for how long I watch the shooter.
Huh?
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Old Sun Aug 10, 2003, 08:29pm
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foul try coverage

According to the IAABO Federation rules manual, the trail oficial covers the players on the opposite lane line except for the first lane space which is covered by the lead official, who also covers the players on his oposite lane line.
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Red face Next year, trail has even more responsibilies

In addition to the shooter, the shot, the one or two people opposite except the #1 position, there will not be more people behind the 3-point arch and backcourt. Since only a maximum of 6 people can occupy lane spaces, the lead could have 6, 7, or 8 people to account for.

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Old Mon Aug 11, 2003, 01:53am
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According to the IAABO Federation rules manual, the trail oficial covers the players on the opposite lane line except for the first lane space which is covered by the lead official, who also covers the players on his oposite lane line.
This is the same for NFHS mechanics. The lead has both players in the bottom blocks. Chuck and others just simplified it.
Also, as I've said before IAABO does not have a separate manual, they simply reprint the NFHS books along with their directory and some other stuff all in one big book. In short, every rule they follow is the exact same as NFHS.
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