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Old Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:10pm
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Travel. The player always had control, even though it started as a try.

The play is no different than "Player rises for jump shot, sees the ball will be block, keeps holding the ball and lands."
But it’s still a try. If the shot had been blocked by a person as opposed to the rim that doesn’t change what it was when A1 rose off the floor. As long as we determine it was a try to begin with 5-1-10 says the ball doesn’t have to leave A1’s hands.


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5-1-10: Deals with a foul. Under the play in question a foul did not prevent the release...but the rim did (embarrassing for the player)
I think the foul described in the rule is just for the purpose of providing an example. It’s also the most likely way A1 would not be able to release the try.


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5-1-6: States a dunk is a try, which we know. In the play, a dunk was attempted. However, unlike a NORMAL shot or dunk, player control was not lost. Does the lack of losing player-control void the attempt?
If it was B1 who caused the ball to remain in A1’s hands would A1 have lost PC? I'm saying "no" because in that scenario it would be a held ball once A1 returned to the floor and part of the definition/description of a held ball involving an airborne player says that player “returns to the playing court never losing control of the ball.” (NCAAW 6-4-2b) It's still a try, just one that isn't successful.
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Old Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:04pm
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But it’s still a try. If the shot had been blocked by a person as opposed to the rim that doesn’t change what it was when A1 rose off the floor. As long as we determine it was a try to begin with 5-1-10 says the ball doesn’t have to leave A1’s hands.




I think the foul described in the rule is just for the purpose of providing an example. It’s also the most likely way A1 would not be able to release the try.




If it was B1 who caused the ball to remain in A1’s hands would A1 have lost PC? I'm saying "no" because in that scenario it would be a held ball once A1 returned to the floor and part of the definition/description of a held ball involving an airborne player says that player “returns to the playing court never losing control of the ball.” (NCAAW 6-4-2b) It's still a try, just one that isn't successful.
I think there's a specific case play where A1 jumps, the ball is touched by B1, the touch doesn't prevent the release and A1 lands. It's travelling.

In practice, 99% of the time it will be a held ball.
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