10 second count on small court?
What are the general rules when officiating a youth game on a very small court when the backcourt line is actually a point before the marked midcourt line as far as 10 second rule and backcourt violation? Do you use the court's true midline as your 10 second count point and then once the player dribbling the ball crosses the mid court line, the backcourt line becomes that first line that was crossed, which effectively allows for a bigger front court?
A little hard to explain, but anyone who has reffed on a small youth-sized court should know what I mean. |
Just don't have a count. :)
If using that type of court they shouldn't be allowed to press anyway, IMO. |
There is no rule. The only rule that might take place is a local or league rule. Otherwise not our call to do anything different just because of the size fo the court.
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Generally you have to cross the line closest to your basket in < 10 seconds, but can then use the line closest to the opponent's basket as your "front court." The best bet, though, is to ask that league (or experienced referees in that league) how they want it called. |
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Thanks for all of the quick replies, and yes , Bob, something along those lines. I should have mentioned it's a youth league that does employ 10 second rule and allows pressing in backcourt (with the older grades). So, there definitely are rules. Was just curious which line you would use to end 10 second count and at what point would the line that is closest to opponent's basket become the line to use for backcourt violation.
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1. It is to give a team a reasonable sized frontcourt without being at risk of stepping into the backcourt while just above the top of the key. 2. The division line, in general, in the context of the 10 second rule, limits the amount of space the offense is allowed to make use of. It is not about having a team advance the ball a certain distance by 10 seconds. The offense is, after 10 seconds, limited to playing the ball in an area smaller than the full court. As such, the only logical conclusion is that the division line for a given team, for both purposes, is the one farther from their basket. Each team has their own backcourt and 10 second line...and it is the same line. |
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It was a long time ago. Maybe I was incorrect in my earlier post. There were three lines, two "secondary" lines, and a "real" division line, with a jump ball circle (one of three jump ball circles back in the olden days). Maybe the offensive team had to get it over the "real" division line in ten seconds, and after that could legally "back-up" to the "secondary" line "behind" the "real" division line, without incurring a backcourt violation. |
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