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JetMetFan Fri Oct 04, 2013 07:04pm

How do you continue?
 
NCAA code (M or W): Team A’s head coach receives his/her second direct technical or his/her third direct/indirect technical and is ejected. Team A does not have any assistant coaches. The game...?

HawkeyeCubP Thu Oct 10, 2013 01:52pm

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 906791)
NCAA code (M or W): Team A’s head coach receives his/her second direct technical or his/her third direct/indirect technical and is ejected. Team A does not have any assistant coaches. The game...?

Wow. I actually don't know (NCAA-W), and can't find anything. Someone smarter than me, go.

bob jenkins Thu Oct 10, 2013 02:02pm

I think this was a case play / interp a few years ago, and a coach is NOT required.

jeschmit Thu Oct 10, 2013 09:07pm

If you read Rule 1-1-1, it says that a game consists of two teams with five players each. It doesn't say anything about a coach being present there...

Sharpshooternes Fri Oct 11, 2013 09:50am

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Originally Posted by jeschmit (Post 907230)
If you read Rule 1-1-1, it says that a game consists of two teams with five players each. It doesn't say anything about a coach being present there...

What is the ruling with HS?

bob jenkins Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:14am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 907253)
What is the ruling with HS?

The NF doesn't care, but your state might.

PG_Ref Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:39am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 907253)
What is the ruling with HS?

The places where I have officiated HS games have required an adult on the bench at all times. You have to check locally.

j51969 Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:50am

I would love to meet the HS or College coach who doesn't have any assistants. Usually there is atleast a solid half dozen; even in the cow towns here in IL.:)

APG Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:51am

In a high school game, I would suspend the contest and let the state figure out what they want to do.

JRutledge Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:53am

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Originally Posted by j51969 (Post 907261)
I would love to meet the HS or College coach who doesn't have any assistants. Usually there is atleast a solid half dozen; even in the cow towns here in IL.:)

You would be surprised. It is not totally unusual to see HS teams, especially the lower levels to have only one adult. I have ejected a coach and no one was left. At the college level, never seen that. But even some of the small colleges might have only one assistant coach.

Peace

jdmara Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:56am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 907253)
What is the ruling with HS?

In Iowa, the contest is terminated at the point where there is not an authorized (I believe that's the appropriate term) coach on the bench.

Unfortunately, when I was in the early days of officiating I got frustrated with a coach during a baseball game and ejected him. He was the only coach so the game was done at that point. Young and naive, those were the days.

-Josh

RookieDude Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:06am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 907264)
I have ejected a coach and no one was left.

Peace

...did you continue the game?

JRutledge Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:18am

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 907266)
...did you continue the game?

Actually I did because it was not clear at the time if we should. Now I would never do that again. Actually there was an "adult" that claimed to be associated with the school, but this has been clarfied since. Now if this happens the game is over. It must be someone that is a school employee on the bench before the game, and that was unclear at that time if the woman was with the school that took over.

Peace

Adam Fri Oct 11, 2013 01:16pm

In high school, I'm not aware of any state that doesn't require a coach on the bench. It's not in the NFHS rules, but check with the state association. The requirements for who can act as a coach may differ by state as well.

Stat-Man Fri Oct 11, 2013 03:31pm

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 907253)
What is the ruling with HS?

In Michigan, a team without an assistant coach or school representative has to forfeit the game.

Best bet is to check with your state to see what the proper procedure is.

BillyMac Fri Oct 11, 2013 06:01pm

Fools Rush In (Ricky Nelson, 1963) ...
 
A few summers ago I tossed a coach in an AAU tournament. The was no assistant coach. I wasn't sure what to do, but I knew that the kids should keep playing because the tossed coach was not the fault of any of the kids on either team, so why should they be punished? I told the kids without a coach that we could keep playing if a parent came out of the stands to coach the team. He did, and we did.

Really don't know what the policy is here for our high school games. I'm sure that if it happened we would have a discussion with the remaining coach, and the athletic director (faculty manager, site director) and get it straightened out.

Adam Fri Oct 11, 2013 07:15pm

Billy, you might want to check with your state first, before it happens.

BillyMac Sat Oct 12, 2013 05:50am

Never Happen ???
 
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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 907300)
Billy, you might want to check with your state first, before it happens.

I figure that the remaining coach, and athletic director (faculty manager, site director) will already know what to do. Add my partner into the mix, and we'll come up with a rational decision to continue, or not. We could also make a quick call to my assigner (retired teacher, still coaches soccer, and golf).

In a few more years, when I retire from the wonderful world of chemistry, I plan to make myself available to work those midafternoon middle school, and freshman, games. Now, there's where we could run into some "lack of coaches" problems, and I'll be sure to find out the "real" rule, if, indeed, one such rule exists here. Most of the high schools here have paid, and volunteer, coaching staffs that would rival any professional football team.


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