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JRutledge Fri Oct 04, 2013 08:15am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 906738)
and, absent a specific rule, most are telling you that this is NOT a situation to be "managed" by ignoring the rule -- instead, just enforce it. You, of course, are free to ignore the advice.

And the one thing Billy seems to not understand as many of the comments I am sure was not advice; it was simply stating what an individual would do if they were faced with the situation. What others do is ultimately up to them and their experience to determine

Not everything we do also is subjected to what an assignor (When in Rome crap) says or an area association wants. Sometimes we are hired because the right people trust our judgment and our game management skills no matter the level or situation.

Peace

Raymond Fri Oct 04, 2013 03:39pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 906743)
And the one thing Billy seems to not understand as many of the comments I am sure was not advice; it was simply stating what an individual would do if they were faced with the situation. What others do is ultimately up to them and their experience to determine

Not everything we do also is subjected to what an assignor (When in Rome crap) says or an area association wants. Sometimes we are hired because the right people trust our judgment and our game management skills no matter the level or situation.

Peace

NCAA-M have a lot of new rules this year. A couple of them concern HCs being out the box and coming in contact with an official or player. My JuCo supervisor told us he is not going to tell us how to handle these situations.

BillyMac Fri Oct 04, 2013 06:00pm

No One ???
 
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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 906740)
... no one said 7th graders won't get confused.

"We think they cannot handle what not to do on a throw-in?"

"Basketball how hard is it to know the ball has to be throw-in out of bounds? Sounds simple to me."

"That might be the case is some places, but not in the places that I am familiar"

BillyMac Fri Oct 04, 2013 06:18pm

Let's Go To The Videotape (Warner Wolf) ...
 
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 906738)
Most are telling you that this is NOT a situation to be "managed" by ignoring the rule ... are free to ignore the advice.

I've never advocated ignoring the rule, i.e. no whistle, and play on.

I received good advice from quite a few Forum members, including a few esteemed members:

7th grade? I'd probably kill the play and bring them back, depending on the talent level on the court. Adam

At that level you could either blow the whistle and point to the player to properly inbound the ball ... depending on how generous and/or teachable you are feeling. AremRed

This is what my partner & I did in our 7th grade game last week. Stat-Man

Elementary, and Junior High, I am stopping play and bringing them back for a proper throw in, once, and explaining the correct thing to do. OKREF

Seems like common sense to me. Falls into the same category as getting them lined up for free throws properly...certainly not by the book, but I'm looking to help teach the game at this level. Bad Zebra

At those levels, you have to call the game to a level that they specific players in the game are ready for. Camron Rust

It's 7th grade basketball. Blow the whistle as soon as they grab ball and tell the player what to do ... we are not only enforcing the rules but coaching a little bit in the younger grades. I've never had an opposing coach get upset for helping out on a play like that. KevinP

I agree with … your position. Adam

I probably approach this the way Billy does. Adam

I also received good advice from those that want to enforce the rule as stated in the casebook play. Calling the violation really is another effective way of teaching seventh graders the rules. However, for me, and for a few others (see above), with younger players, with confused players, early in the season, and early in the game, we might handle this in a manner that differs with the casebook play.


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