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[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I've had this (above) exactly once in thirty-two years, with no other problems in almost a thousand of high school games. What's wrong with, "East Oshkosh basket by Joey Smith. Assist from Johnny Jones", after a score?

Nothing to my mind.

What's wrong (imho) is:
"East Oshkosh with the ball, Johnny Smith dribbling up the floor, passes to James Jones who's double teamed, passes to Bill Baxter who's wide open in the corner - THREE!!!!!!!"

Those announcers who think they are on the radio (whose listeners can't see the action) are annoying.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Easy. PA announcers treating the game as though it’s an And-1 mix tape and, my guess is, a few others commenting on calls. Someone called Indianapolis and the rest is NFHS rule history.

I had a BV game near the end of the ’11-12 school year where there was a student handling the PA and he was basically doing play-by-play during the action as though we were in the park. I told him to stop and he said no one had complained about it all season, which I can believe.

If that is true, then address that issue. Otherwise I do not see this as a problem. I have never really been in a game where there is play-by-play at the high school level for sure. Usually they comment on who made a basket and who fouled. Otherwise I do not even notice them. And when the game gets close, I really do not hear them. But to just make a rule for the last seconds when it would be a similar problem in the middle of the game seems to overreach.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If that is true, then address that issue. Otherwise I do not see this as a problem. I have never really been in a game where there is play-by-play at the high school level for sure. Usually they comment on who made a basket and who fouled. Otherwise I do not even notice them. And when the game gets close, I really do not hear them. But to just make a rule for the last seconds when it would be a similar problem in the middle of the game seems to overreach.

Peace

Who said anything about the final seconds? I missed that.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

Who said anything about the final seconds? I missed that.

If you are outlawing what happens in the final two minutes, you are worried about the final seconds too.

I just do not see this as a problem that many are doing or where it interferes with players in critical moments.

I will use the wording APG referenced in the rule.

Originally Posted by APG

NFHS
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The playing of music/sound effects shall only be permitted during pregame, time-outs, intermission and post-game. The use of artificial noisemakers shall be prohibited. The announcer shall be prohibited from making announcements during the game, such as "two minutes to go."

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

"East Oshkosh with the ball, Johnny Smith dribbling up the floor, passes to James Jones who's double teamed, passes to Bill Baxter who's wide open in the corner - THREE!!!!!!!"

How about, "Oh no. How could she miss that free throw"?

The play by play bothered me the entire first half. I was only the umpire and the referee decided, at halftime, to just leave it alone. Until we heard this (above), and then he shut it down as fast as he could run to the table. We both followed up with phone calls to our assigner, who agreed with us and said that he would contact the athletic director the next morning and back us both up.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I've had this (above) exactly once in thirty-two years, with no other problems in almost a thousand of high school games. What's wrong with, "East Oshkosh basket by Joey Smith. Assist from Johnny Jones", after a score?

I agree with others...nothing. If I were to have that in my game, I wouldn't even bat an eye.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by APG

I agree with others...nothing. If I were to have that in my game, I wouldn't even bat an eye.

I probably would not be that aware that even took place.

Peace

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Decades and decades ago, I had the PA announcer removed from a women's Div. I game because he would announce who committed the foul before either my partner or I even had reported the foul to the Table. The problem was this: He would do this whenever there was a foul was committed in the "paint" where there would be a group of players and he would always be wrong. The Head Coaches would listen to him and then get upset with my partner or me when we would report a different player. I told him to wait until we had reported the foul but he told me he could do whatever he wanted. To make matters worse we knew each other personally because he was the PA announcer at the Univ. of Miami's Mark Light Field. Needless to say, I did not lose any sleep over it.

MTD, Sr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Centuries and centuries ago, I had the PA announcer removed from a women's Div. I game because he would announce who committed the foul before either my partner or I even had reported the foul to the table.

Same problem in a high school game. I didn't have announcer removed, I just asked him to delay the announcement for few seconds until I reported the foul.

Hey Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: Why didn't you just take the megaphone away from him.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If that is true, then address that issue. Otherwise I do not see this as a problem. I have never really been in a game where there is play-by-play at the high school level for sure. Usually they comment on who made a basket and who fouled. Otherwise I do not even notice them. And when the game gets close, I really do not hear them. But to just make a rule for the last seconds when it would be a similar problem in the middle of the game seems to overreach.

Peace

I’m 99.9% certain the PA announcer being a student is the only reason the BV thing happened in my game. He probably did the running commentary in the park during the summer and thought it was okay. My guess is he didn’t do PA for every BV game – I’d have to think someone in stripes would’ve told him to stop before I did…in February. But now I do remember mentioning it to a couple of officials that offseason and getting responses like, “Oh yeah, that kid, yeah, I let him do it.” Gee guys, thanks.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I’d have to think someone in stripes would’ve told him to stop before I did in February. But now I do remember mentioning it to a couple of officials that offseason and getting responses like, “Oh yeah, that kid, yeah, I let him do it.” Gee guys, thanks.

This post (above) could have just as easily been about illegal equipment; headbands, wristbands, undershirts, jewelry (rings, earrings, necklaces, etc.), arm sleeves, leg sleeves, tights, decorative hair ribbons, etc. "But Mr. BillyMac, Mr. DeNucci, who refereed our game Tuesday night, let us wear different color headbands".

I don't care what the damn "Fashion Police" rules are, let's all (locally) just cover them with same consistency. If a rule on Tuesday is similar to a rule on Friday then let's call it the same way both nights. Wait? I'm being told ... What? A different thread? Never mind.