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stiffler3492 Wed Jul 17, 2013 09:56pm

Hello Again Yall
 
I'm struggling to come up with the right answer to this. I had this play tonight, and was wondering what I should do if my situation were just a bit different.

In the actual situation that happened: A1 drives to the hoop and jumps for a finger roll. After he lands from his jump, he plows through B1 who had been there since before A1 jumped. The shot missed, and I called a foul on A1.

Let's say though, the shot had gone in. Again, the contact happened after the act of shooting was finished. Would the basket count, and then the foul charged to A1?

Kelvin green Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:09pm

Where is the ball when he lands and plows the defender...if ball went through hoop and then plows it is a dead ball foul. If ball is still in the air not through the hoop you have a different foul. ..

Adam Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:36pm

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Originally Posted by Kelvin green (Post 900293)
Where is the ball when he lands and plows the defender...if ball went through hoop and then plows it is a dead ball foul. If ball is still in the air not through the hoop you have a different foul. ..

Just to add:

In order to call this foul if the contact is after the ball went through the basket, it must be either intentional or flagrant.

Either way, the basket would count as there is neither TC nor PC when the foul occurs.

bob jenkins Thu Jul 18, 2013 07:50am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 900298)
Just to add:

In order to call this foul if the contact is after the ball went through the basket, it must be either intentional or flagrant.

Either way, the basket would count as there is neither TC nor PC when the foul occurs.

And it would be a Technical Foul (might matter for DQ, or any "special" summer rules).

99% of the time, though, it would not rise to the level of I or F as described so it would be ignored (in the rules sense; although you might still want to address what's going on)

stiffler3492 Thu Jul 18, 2013 09:16am

OK let me clarify what I'm asking here.

Sequence of events:
Shot
Shooter lands
Contact with B1
Ball goes in

Basket counts?

bob jenkins Thu Jul 18, 2013 09:28am

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 900314)
OK let me clarify what I'm asking here.

Sequence of events:
Shot
Shooter lands
Contact with B1
Ball goes in

Basket counts?

Ask yourself (or look it up) -- When does the ball become dead when a try is in the air?

stiffler3492 Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:00am

Once the try is over, of course.

So it would be the same as if there's a foul underneath while a three point shot is in the air, right?

I guess I just threw myself off with the whole shooter thing...

bob jenkins Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:09am

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 900320)
Once the try is over, of course.

So it would be the same as if there's a foul underneath while a three point shot is in the air, right?

I guess I just threw myself off with the whole shooter thing...

Is a player who has released the ball on a try and returned to the floor still a shooter?

We can overthink things.

Zoochy Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:16am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 900324)
Is a player who has released the ball on a try and returned to the floor still a shooter?

You wouldn't believe how many officials in St. Louis would answer 'Yes' to that question.:eek:

stiffler3492 Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 900331)
You wouldn't believe how many officials in St. Louis would answer 'Yes' to that question.:eek:

Spread the word!!

BillyMac Thu Jul 18, 2013 04:08pm

With My Own Eyes ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 900331)
You wouldn't believe how many officials in St. Louis would answer 'Yes' to that question.

Show me.

Zoochy Mon Jul 22, 2013 04:52pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 900380)
Show me.

Nice Missouri reference. If I had pictures of these officials, Then I could show you. I guess if I did that, then I would not be officiating any more games.:eek:


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