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Old Thu Jul 31, 2003, 02:59pm
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Could one of you good folks direct me to where I might obtain a digital version of the FED basketball rules book??

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Old Thu Jul 31, 2003, 03:07pm
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Could one of you good folks direct me to where I might obtain a digital version of the FED basketball rules book??

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Fed does not put their rules on line but I'm told there's a rules study program that includes a digitized version.
The closest you'll get is the ncaa rules. Almost the same, there's a chart in there that shows differences between mens, womens & fed.

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/20...ball_rules.pdf

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Old Fri Aug 01, 2003, 10:14am
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Riddle me this . . . airborne shooter

The NCAA rules online referenced in a previous post shows the following:

1. In the table of rule differences, re: airborne shooter, it says of NFHS "In air after release of try or tap" and under NCAA Men "No rule".

2. In Rule 4-1-1 (Airborne Shooter) it says "An airborne shooter is a player who has released the ball on a try for goal until one foot has returned to the floor." And 4-1-2 says: "An airborn shooter is in the act of shooting".

Am I out of my mind? DON'T answer that. Rather, answer: "Is the table consistent with the definition?" and "What, concisely, are the practical implications of the difference in the NCAA and NFHS version of 'airborne shooter?'"

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Old Fri Aug 01, 2003, 10:31am
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Re: Riddle me this . . . airborne shooter

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The NCAA rules online referenced in a previous post shows the following:

1. In the table of rule differences, re: airborne shooter, it says of NFHS "In air after release of try or tap" and under NCAA Men "No rule".

2. In Rule 4-1-1 (Airborne Shooter) it says "An airborne shooter is a player who has released the ball on a try for goal until one foot has returned to the floor." And 4-1-2 says: "An airborn shooter is in the act of shooting".

Am I out of my mind? DON'T answer that. Rather, answer: "Is the table consistent with the definition?" and "What, concisely, are the practical implications of the difference in the NCAA and NFHS version of 'airborne shooter?'"

TIA
The airborne shooter distinction comes from the fact that in NF and NCAA women's rules that an airborne shooter who crashes into a defensive player in such a way to have a foul called on the offensive player is still deemed to have control of the ball. Therefore a player control foul is called and no free throws may occur.

In NCAA men's, after the shot is released, and then the shooter crashes and is charged with a foul, the defense could go to the other end to shoot free throws if they were in the bonus.
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Old Fri Aug 01, 2003, 10:32am
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Re: Riddle me this . . . airborne shooter

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The NCAA rules online referenced in a previous post shows the following:

1. In the table of rule differences, re: airborne shooter, it says of NFHS "In air after release of try or tap" and under NCAA Men "No rule".

2. In Rule 4-1-1 (Airborne Shooter) it says "An airborne shooter is a player who has released the ball on a try for goal until one foot has returned to the floor." And 4-1-2 says: "An airborn shooter is in the act of shooting".

Am I out of my mind? DON'T answer that. Rather, answer: "Is the table consistent with the definition?" and "What, concisely, are the practical implications of the difference in the NCAA and NFHS version of 'airborne shooter?'"

TIA
Practical impact: under ncaa mens if the ball is released on the shot before the still airborne shooter (A1) charges into a defender (B1) then it's NOT a PC, score the goal & B1 shoots 1&1 if in the bonus. Of course under fed & ncaa/w this is a pc. See also NCAA 4-26-8 a&b to complete the picture.
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Old Fri Aug 01, 2003, 10:35am
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Ooooo, a minute late, Dan. Slowing down there, old man!
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Old Fri Aug 01, 2003, 10:36am
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Ooooo, a minute late, Dan. Slowing down there, old man!

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Old Fri Aug 01, 2003, 04:39pm
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Slight correction - a crash after release of a shot by A1 is not a team control foul. Player control fouls don't exist any more under NCAA rules.
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Old Fri Aug 01, 2003, 07:04pm
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Slight correction - a crash after release of a shot by A1 is not a team control foul. Player control fouls don't exist any more under NCAA rules.
I dunno...not according to my rule book.

(Hint: 4-26-8 & 4-26-9)

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Old Fri Aug 01, 2003, 07:55pm
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You may be slowing down, Dan, but you beat me to that one.
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Old Fri Aug 01, 2003, 08:08pm
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Slight correction - a crash after release of a shot by A1 is not a team control foul. Player control fouls don't exist any more under NCAA rules.
I dunno...not according to my rule book.

(Hint: 4-26-8 & 4-26-9)


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How the hell am I missing all of this stuff this week???
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