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Old Tue Jun 04, 2013, 04:34pm
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And he did "nothing" on the level that Tyler H did and Cole was ejected and and Tyler H was given just a T.
You are correct. You did not say they were the same thing. My bad.

You actually said that what Hansbrough did was worse than what Coles did...
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Old Tue Jun 04, 2013, 04:36pm
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Agreed... although no one actually said that.

I love people that put words in other people's mouths and then ridicule them for what they didn't say.
And for the peanut gallery...

You are correct also. My bad.

Rutledge said that Hansbrough's actions were worse.
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Old Tue Jun 04, 2013, 04:49pm
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He got up and got in Anderson's face. He did not stay down or go in the other direction. And his mouth was moving, so he was not silent either.

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He can't get up? Or say "What was that for?"

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Old Tue Jun 04, 2013, 04:50pm
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You say you can't assume what he said was problematic, yet you somehow assume it wasn't. Use a LITTLE bit of common sense here. He was just knocked on his ass. Do you really think he got up and thanked his opponent? Do you REALLY think he simply said, "What was that for?"

This is kind of ridiculous - you say you can't assume, and then you not only make an assumption opposite of what he made, but you further project that assumption onto Rut and assume he would T someone up for saying something innocuous. Sorry ... not KIND OF ridiculous. EXCEEDINGLY ridiculous.
Not at all. I'm saying that unless you KNOW what he said, you can't penalize him for what he said. If that is assuming, then that standard means that you must T every player who appears to talk at an opponent when you can't hear what they're saying. I really doubt you're proposing that.

Put simply, his mouth moving is fully insufficient to warrant any penalty.
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Old Tue Jun 04, 2013, 04:55pm
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Not at all. I'm saying that unless you KNOW what he said, you can't penalize him for what he said. If that is assuming, then that standard means that you must T every player who appears to talk at an opponent when you can't hear what they're saying. I really doubt you're proposing that.

Put simply, his mouth moving is fully insufficient to warrant any penalty.
Ah... so you're not saying that WE don't know what he said (which is what I thought you were saying), but the referee on the spot didn't know what he said. OK. If that's true, I agree. However, I assume (there's that word again) that the referee who actually chose to penalize the player did hear what he was penalizing him for.
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Old Tue Jun 04, 2013, 04:59pm
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You are correct. You did not say they were the same thing. My bad.

You actually said that what Hansbrough did was worse than what Coles did...
I think I have a right to my opinion as Cole only exchanged words with the opponent and Hansbrough exchanged words (look at the tape) and came forward to Anderson. Yes, not that far towards Anderson, but he did not back up like Cole did. And I can understand Cole backing up because the guy he was going up against was much bigger then him. Hansbrough is about the same size as Anderson and walking away would not have been a good look. Just ask LBJ as he is being ripped apart for not coming at Muhammad.

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Old Tue Jun 04, 2013, 06:45pm
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However, I assume (there's that word again) that the referee who actually chose to penalize the player did hear what he was penalizing him for.
Evidently, that too would be a bad assumption.

Had he actually said something worthy of a T, the league would not have rescinded the technical foul.
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Old Tue Jun 04, 2013, 06:46pm
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Just ask LBJ as he is being ripped apart for not coming at Muhammad.
He couldn't. He was too busy flopping on his a$$.
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Old Tue Jun 04, 2013, 06:57pm
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He couldn't. He was too busy flopping on his a$$.
As I said before. Different officials, different experiences and different games and situations. I have no problem with how the 3 situations were handled and think it is unrealistic that all situations will be done the exact same when the game situations were not the same.

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