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dvboa Mon May 13, 2013 11:41pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 894033)
Not a problem. Welcome to the forum. Just know that we will continue to make fun of officials from SoCal.

Oh I'm sure you will. Living in such a nice place almost demands it from those in other parts of the country. : D

Adam Tue May 14, 2013 12:06am

1. Charge
2. Play on, and don't pull that crap on me again.
3. Charge

JetMetFan Tue May 14, 2013 12:08am

PC (would've been nice if the C watched both players hit the floor as opposed to following the ball to the other side of the court)

nothing

PC

AremRed Tue May 14, 2013 12:26am

By my count we are almost 50/50 on the 1st play.

Nevadaref Tue May 14, 2013 01:13am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 894051)
PC (would've been nice if the C watched both players hit the floor as opposed to following the ball to the other side of the court)

Would be nice if the crew had a C to watch any plays, but that's not how it is done where this game was played.

BillyMac Tue May 14, 2013 06:07am

I'm Kidding, Just Kidding ...
 
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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 894057)
By my count we are almost 50/50 on the 1st play.

Time for a poll?

HokiePaul Tue May 14, 2013 12:31pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 894028)
You may wish to take this phrase and never use it again.

hmm ... I wasn't sure how to phrase this. I didn't want to say "when the defender obtained legal guarding position" because in my opinion, they never did. So the defender was never set/established in a legal position.

any suggestions for better terminology?

HokiePaul Tue May 14, 2013 12:37pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 894030)
Rich alludes to it above, but there is no requirement for a defender to ever be set. Ever. LGP does not require "getting set."

Understand that, but as I mention above, in my opinion (its close), the defender never got legal guarding position. I didn't want to say "before the defender got legal guarding position" because the defender never did. I guess "defender getting set" was short for "defender getting two feet down and torso facing the opponent"

JetMetFan Tue May 14, 2013 01:11pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 894063)
Would be nice if the crew had a C to watch any plays, but that's not how it is done where this game was played.

I'm a little confused - though it's not the first time and won't be the last. Are you saying this was a two-person crew? The officials' movements in Play #3 indicate otherwise.

Nevadaref Tue May 14, 2013 02:28pm

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Originally Posted by HokiePaul (Post 894141)
Understand that, but as I mention above, in my opinion (its close), the defender never got legal guarding position. I didn't want to say "before the defender got legal guarding position" because the defender never did. I guess "defender getting set" was short for "defender getting two feet down and torso facing the opponent"

People where I am use the term "established" to convey this while avoiding sending an incorrect message.

Nevadaref Tue May 14, 2013 02:30pm

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 894151)
I'm a little confused - though it's not the first time and won't be the last. Are you saying this was a two-person crew? The officials' movements in Play #3 indicate otherwise.

Yep, it's the same two guys in all three plays. Plus I know that CA is almost entirely 2-man.

JetMetFan Tue May 14, 2013 02:39pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 894168)
Yep, it's the same two guys in all three plays. Plus I know that CA is almost entirely 2-man.

Check the crew's movement on play #3. That's a 3-person rotation if I ever saw one. Given the camera angle the T may be deep but I'd be surprised if it wasn't a 3-person crew.

Additionally, if this is a playoff game all those I've seen on the DVBOA YouTube feed have been 3-person.

Nevadaref Tue May 14, 2013 02:47pm

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 894171)
Check the crew's movement on play #3. That's a 3-person rotation if I ever saw one. Given the camera angle the T may be deep but I'd be surprised if it wasn't a 3-person crew.

Additionally, if this is a playoff game all those I've seen on the DVBOA YouTube feed have been 3-person.

I don't know for sure, so I'll wait for the poster of the video to answer and clarify for us.
The final play looked like a C moving down to me as well, but it could just be the T working low. Also early round playoff games are still 2-man.

JetMetFan Tue May 14, 2013 02:51pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 894173)
it could just be the T working low.

I hope not because that's way too low, especially for a play that wasn't in his PCA where he needed to be watching off the ball.

SCalScoreKeeper Tue May 14, 2013 05:44pm

Hello all,
In the Great State of California all 1'st and 2'nd round sectional playoff games are handled with two person crews.Sectional quarterfinals and all subsequent rounds of the state tournament are handled in three person.Regular season assignments are also in two person except for select tournament finals.

oh and on the plays:
1.Charge
2.Play on
3.Charge


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