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Nevadaref Mon Apr 29, 2013 01:48pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 892344)
But we're close enough to them and can be around them enough to gain their trust....and perhaps turn that into something more.

So is any person who regularly buys a ticket at the door and attends HS games.
They can sit courtside all season at most gyms without difficulty.

Should the schools being asking fans to sign up for an approved spectator list? Perhaps there can be a sort of TSA approved frequent fan admittance line!

Adam Mon Apr 29, 2013 01:50pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 892396)
So is any person who regularly buys a ticket at the door and attends HS games.
They can sit courtside all season at most gyms without difficulty.

Yep, the local sports fans are more involved with players and students than an official who might see the same players two or three times a year.

JRutledge Mon Apr 29, 2013 02:16pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 892397)
Yep, the local sports fans are more involved with players and students than an official who might see the same players two or three times a year.

I just went to a Coach's Hall of Fame Dinner where coaches, players, officials and fans of the game were inducted into the HOF. I can tell you that many of those people that were not officials had a bigger impact or knowledge of the kids that play than any of the officials in our current role.

Peace

Brad Mon Apr 29, 2013 05:24pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 892012)
I'm still trying to figure why officials have to pay so much for camps... Pay for teaching camps, yes, try-out camps, no. He said part of the reason coordinators get paid by conferences is to find officials to work.

It's definitely a way for the coordinators to make money, but it's a double-edged sword as far as charging vs not charging for a try-out camp.

If it's paid anyone can go if they pony up the dough — if it is free, then there has to be some sort of selection process. Otherwise you'd have tons of people showing up for free that otherwise wouldn't (and shouldn't) be there. Plus, it adds a layer of politics to it —*moreso than there already is.

So, I agree with you, since I think the process is too expensive for those wanting to move up, but I'm not sure that making the camps free solves the problem rather than simply trading one set of problems out for another.

Brad Mon Apr 29, 2013 05:26pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 892043)
Are coaches required to directly pay for their background checks? Teachers?

I think you have an employee vs contractor issue here. As independent contractors the burden to pay for a background check probably legally falls on us — versus as an employee it would fall on the school / district.

Edited to add...

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 892047)
Employee vs. independent contractor. We're a vendor to the school...actually several schools.

^^^ Yeah. This.

26 Year Gap Mon Apr 29, 2013 09:04pm

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Originally Posted by Brad (Post 892436)
I think you have an employee vs contractor issue here. As independent contractors the burden to pay for a background check probably legally falls on us — versus as an employee it would fall on the school / district.

Edited to add...



^^^ Yeah. This.

Actually, I work as a teacher. I had to pay for my own background checks.

dave30 Sun May 05, 2013 10:59pm

I wonder if this ever happens in the Lingerie Football League? !


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