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Adam Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:48am

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 890268)
I don't want to get in a forum fight here, but I don't think you should let the "bosses" dictate how you officiate. Who are the bosses? Are the affiliated with the mob? Kidding of course, but I call a fair game and a foul in the first is a foul in the 4th, why wouldn't it be? M

That's rarely what is meant when someone says "a foul is a foul." What is usually meant is "he touched him, so you need to call a foul." It's more aptly described as "I think that's a foul, so these guys are idiots for not calling it."

APG Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:58am

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 890266)
I don't have a rule book in front of me, but there is a stipulation about a game getting out of control. I am at a conference right now, but always watching the forum :D

If you're talking about a forfeit, that occurs if a team refuse to play after being instructed to, failing to comply with any technical foul penalty, repeated technical foul infractions or other acts that make a travesty of the game.

Adam Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:04am

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 890281)
If you're talking about a forfeit, that occurs if a team refuse to play after being instructed to, failing to comply with any technical foul penalty, repeated technical foul infractions or other acts that make a travesty of the game.

You can't just "call it over" because you don't like how they're playing. If it's that bad, just keep calling the fouls. It will eventually stop.

pfan1981 Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:05am

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 890281)
If you're talking about a forfeit, that occurs if a team refuse to play after being instructed to, failing to comply with any technical foul penalty, repeated technical foul infractions or other acts that make a travesty of the game.

APG. I'll have to check my book at home, I thought I marked this after that game. Anyone else out there hear about this?

APG Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:09am

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 890285)
APG. I'll have to check my book at home, I thought I marked this after that game. Anyone else out there hear about this?

I'll say this...I've never heard of this. Now maybe this is a local thing there for JV games to make sure varsity games start on time, but as far as I can recall, there's nothing in the rule book as far as "calling" a game except for the reasons I stated earlier (that come from 5-4).

pfan1981 Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:48am

APG, I guess they were referring to a travesty. And that it was. I thought the coach soiled herself when she thought she was getting a call, but it definitely was a charge on her girl and not a block on the defender. Her team was playing with three by the end of the game

Raymond Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:59am

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 890268)
I don't want to get in a forum fight here, but I don't think you should let the "bosses" dictate how you officiate. Who are the bosses? ...

How about they are the folks who pay us to officiate games. They are the folks who select who will work games in a particular conference or for a particular association. They are the folks who decide who works various levels of play-off games.

Who do you think should be deciding who does or doesn't work games? :confused:

Adam Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:03pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 890312)
How about they are the folks who pay us to officiate games. They are the folks who selects who will work games in a particular conference or for a particular association. They are the folks who decide who works various levels of play-offs games.

Who do you think should be deciding who does or doesn't work games? :confused:

The magic objective committee of enlightened super people.

APG Wed Apr 10, 2013 01:46pm

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 890304)
APG, I guess they were referring to a travesty. And that it was. I thought the coach soiled herself when she thought she was getting a call, but it definitely was a charge on her girl and not a block on the defender. Her team was playing with three by the end of the game

Perhaps this is a had to be there situation, but nothing in your description sounds like a travesty of the game.

JRutledge Wed Apr 10, 2013 09:59pm

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 890268)
I don't want to get in a forum fight here, but I don't think you should let the "bosses" dictate how you officiate. Who are the bosses? Are the affiliated with the mob? Kidding of course, but I call a fair game and a foul in the first is a foul in the 4th, why wouldn't it be? M

What does asking you to explain what you mean have to do with getting into a fight? I hear this all the time and it is the most ambiguous point anyone can make, because fouls are subjective as the rules state they are to be judged. When the rules say a foul is only when a player's "normal movement" is affected, then that is going to be subjective.

Peace


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