Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 888454)

Maybe it is just HS officials in your area that don't know traveling. Perhaps it is their instructors that don't teach it to them correctly.

EDIT: And I actually see those travels called incorrectly MORE often in college games that I do in HS games. A high dribble at those levels almost always gets a whistle.

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 888477)

I have watched video of plays from high school officials all over the country and it is not just something that takes place in one area. Obviously people from California or IAABO feel the same way when they have produced videos on YouTube and on DVD suggesting otherwise. And that does not include the videos we have seen here alone. And every time we get a POE about some traveling situation is more evidence that someone feels high school officials are not doing a great job calling traveling correctly.

Peace

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 888448)

He traveled twice.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 888495)

He actually travelled once and committed 2 illegal dribble. The 2nd illegal dribble occurs in conjunction with his 1 travel.

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 888506)

No, he hopped and landed. Travel

Then he jumped, released the ball, then recovered it. Travel

I didn't see an illegal dribble.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 888533)

How many different times did he dribble? I count 3 separate dribbles. (Dribbble then fumble; a singe dribble after the fumble; dribble when he jumped and dropped the ball picked it up then passed)

That first hop is a jump stop, he was allowed that. The travel came when he jumped again after the jump stop and drop the ball for what was now his 3rd dribble in this sequence.

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 888579)

I didn't consider the second one a dribble, no control, but if you did I could live with it. The first hop is off one foot, and he lands on just that same foot. That is not a jump stop. The third dribble can't be an illegal dribble because it's a travel for releasing it with the pivot off the floor.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 888614)

He still dribbled after he travelled. So that was an illegal dribble b/c of his previous dribble(s).

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 888643)

So, it is both a travel and an illegal dribble.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 888533)

How many different times did he dribble? I count 3 separate dribbles. (Dribbble then fumble; a singe dribble after the fumble; dribble when he jumped and dropped the ball picked it up then passed)

That first hop is a jump stop, he was allowed that. The travel came when he jumped again after the jump stop and drop the ball for what was now his 3rd dribble in this sequence.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 888495)

He actually travelled once and committed 2 illegal dribble. The 2nd illegal dribble occurs in conjunction with his 1 travel.