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icallfouls Fri Mar 08, 2013 04:39pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 883793)
If you feel there might be a need to speak to a coach in this situation you bring the 2 coaches together at the table BEFORE the decision is announced and explain what is about to happen.
And render the decision boxing/wrestling style....grab both coaches by the arm and raise up the arm of the winner.... :D

APG Fri Mar 08, 2013 05:30pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 883792)
I simply believe it's a matter of common courtesy. Assuming the coach hasn't been a jerk or uncivil in this game, I have no problem with a brief word, should he request one (and he probably will). I also don't like the message sent when we high-tail it off the court after any game (unless our safety is in danger), particularly in a situation such as this, where a partner conference was necessary. And bear in mind, you will likely run into that coach again.

JMF mentioned "harms way." Perhaps I just don't see enough harm in my little corner to be concerned about that. If there's a higher chance of danger in your part of Rome, I can certainly see that point.
Seems like a big waste of time that can only bring negative...he's either going to be happy or pissed off at you, and no amount of talking to the coach is going to change that. All you've done with your method, in this situation, would be to give the head coach a head start in ****in at you.

MD Longhorn Fri Mar 08, 2013 05:50pm
Game's over. Leave. You might not think there's danger - doesn't mean there isn't.

BillyMac Fri Mar 08, 2013 06:07pm
Just A Thought ???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BEAREF (Post 883704)
From a game management perspective, if it's as razor thin close as it appears in the video, is it better to wave it off and go to OT?
Would 3-13 help us here? I know that the equipment didn't fail, but can we still go to the table?

If the red/LED light fails to illuminate and the timer’s signal fails to sound, or is
not recognized by the officials, the timer shall go onto the court or use other
means to immediately notify the nearest official. If in the meantime, a goal has
been made or a foul has occurred, the referee shall consult the timer:
ART. 1 . . . If table officials agree that time expired before the ball was in flight,
the goal shall not count.
ART. 2 . . . If table officials agree that the quarter or extra period ended, as in
5-6-2 before the foul occurred, the foul shall be disregarded, unless it was
intentional or flagrant.
ART. 3 . . . If table officials disagree, the goal shall count and/or the foul shall
be penalized, unless the referee has knowledge which alters such ruling.

Nevadaref Fri Mar 08, 2013 09:45pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 883824)
Would 3-13 help us here? I know that the equipment didn't fail, but can we still go to the table?

If the red/LED light fails to illuminate and the timer’s signal fails to sound, or is
not recognized by the officials, the timer shall go onto the court or use other
means to immediately notify the nearest official. If in the meantime, a goal has
been made or a foul has occurred, the referee shall consult the timer:
ART. 1 . . . If table officials agree that time expired before the ball was in flight,
the goal shall not count.
ART. 2 . . . If table officials agree that the quarter or extra period ended, as in
5-6-2 before the foul occurred, the foul shall be disregarded, unless it was
intentional or flagrant.
ART. 3 . . . If table officials disagree, the goal shall count and/or the foul shall
be penalized, unless the referee has knowledge which alters such ruling.
No, Billy. The rules clearly state that the table crew only gets consulted in the case of an equipment malfunction. Barring that, the officials on the court need to make a decision.

OKREF Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:10pm
Didn't look like it was off in time to me.

fullor30 Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:25pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 883792)
I simply believe it's a matter of common courtesy. Assuming the coach hasn't been a jerk or uncivil in this game, I have no problem with a brief word, should he request one (and he probably will). I also don't like the message sent when we high-tail it off the court after any game (unless our safety is in danger), particularly in a situation such as this, where a partner conference was necessary. And bear in mind, you will likely run into that coach again.

JMF mentioned "harms way." Perhaps I just don't see enough harm in my little corner to be concerned about that. If there's a higher chance of danger in your part of Rome, I can certainly see that point.
Game is over.....if he asks me something as I'm running by him....maybe "Coach,shot was good" Never breaking stride.

Nothing good will ever come out of a conversation that you allude to.

fullor30 Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:34pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by nevadaref (Post 883839)
no, billy. the rules clearly state that the table crew only gets consulted in the case of an equipment malfunction. Barring that, the officials on the court need to make a decision.
2-13-1


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