Florida 6A Girls Final
 

After watching a little of Bad Zebra's 7A final, I saw the links for the video to other games and started clicking around watching the last few minutes to other games. The 6A game had a wild ending.

Here's the link to the 7A game: 2013 FHSAA Class 7A Girls Basketball Championship: Buchholtz vs Nova (Event): Florida: PlayOn! Sports

Scroll to the bottom and click on the 6A game, then jump to about 1:34:00 to find the sequence. After green forced OT with a banked in three at the regulation horn, white and green are tied again late in OT, about 2 seconds left. Out of a timeout, green throws a long pass picked off a midcourt. White tries to shoot the 35-footer but is fouled. The new lead has the call from 40 feet away, although the C has a fist up too. No idea how the new lead can have this call, unless she has a block on Green #12. It looks like Green #20 may have fouled her on the arm, and that may be what the C has, but there is no way the lead can have that.

White has 3 FTA with no time on the clock, to make one and win the championship. She makes the first and it should be game over, but it takes the officials a bit to figure that out.

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Regarding the 6A game: I don't see any foul. It looks like the C mirrors the foul call.

Maybe G12 hip checked the shooter.

You can also make a case for time expired. Lead was determined to make a call, couldn't wait. At least with C having her fist up, pass the call to her. Weak

How the L could see this is a mystery.

How the crew does not know the game is over after the first is a mystery.

The crew did not handle this end of game very well.

I will live and die with no call and 2OT.

Watching the 7A - why did R point direction to start game prior to toss? :D

Here's all I will say. I watched it live. It was truly wild.

I was able to see a replay of the final foul that was called frame by frame. The shooter was clearly fouled by one player and an argument can be made...by a second defender as well.

I won't comment on what occured after the whistle, but it is definitely worthy of discussion. -BZ

Reasonably common mechanic. Don't know if it's specifically required / desired in FL.

Well, then we know if jar had been working that game he would have made sure a multiple foul was reported. ;)

I mean, what other rules do you think they ignore?

Which player "clearly" committed the foul, #20 or #12? I'm guessing #20, but for the L's sake I hope it was #12.

Frame by frame showed #20 was the more obvious (as is visible at regular speed replay as well).

Your recently elevated status does not excuse you from signaling your ironic intent in some conventional fashion, e.g., :D

I'm not seeing how the Lead has a whistle on this play. The C is right there and the Lead needs to let the C decide whether or not any foul is committed.

So let me see if I've got this right......in a tied, OT state championship game...a player is obviously fouled in the act of shooting, and people in this thread are criticizing one of the TWO officials who called a foul. The call was correct, but people are criticizing who blew the whistle?

Interesting.

It's not so obvious to me. I wish Bad Zebra could share the frame by frame replay. I stopped the clip and #12 clearly contacts the ball first. Can't tell if she gets the arm after that but I'll take BZ's word that there was a foul.

But I think it's still important to referee your primary and the L should not have had a whistle on this. It looks like the L reported the foul who on the player who did NOT commit what you call the obvious foul and since it's right in front of the C and the L is 40 feet away, she should have deferred to to the C to report since the play was right in front of her.

Sometimes you can be right and still be wrong.

We ALL use that mechanic here in FL. Well, maybe THAT GUY doesn't.

Absolutely I'm criticizing an official for calling a foul a very long distance outside of their PCA on a play that happened right in front of another official and the on-ball official had a whistle. And the foul wasn't OBVIOUS. Actually the only contact I saw was from the defender from behind which the Lead had no way of seeing.

+1000 She never gave C a chance to grab it. It certainly wasn't obvious to me.

Plus you would think she'd give C the call on double whistle. Still maintain time may have expired.

I'm not giving much credibility if state final officials don't realize game is over after winning free throw.

It's funny -- I quit using that mechanic about 2 years ago. Haven't used it since.

But what if C decided to pass on marginal contact and let the game to into another period? The L would have been putting the entire crew into a horrible position and the integrity of the crew has diminished. This is probably not a 2-whistle play unless the shooter absolutely gets crushed and C has a brain freeze, then that would need to become a crew call.

TRUST YOUR PARTNERS........especially in a game of this magnitude. You would like to think that each official has gotten there by their merits.

I agree...there were two officials in better position to get that. No way the lead, from the endline, should be calling that type of foul at the division line.

Agreed again and not trying to pile on, it may have been a good call, but certainly not by new lead.

I just quit midseason here. I'll probably use it for YMCA stuff, but I figure all that gets settled during warm ups. If they're warming up wrong, I fix it and we move on.

I stopped using it too. Seemed overly officious...

... and you're striving for... just the right amount of officiousness? :eek:

Sorry, pet peeve. :)

I don't think I can adjust to using OO instead of OOO.

You're an admin: every time someone posts 'OOO', just go into the post and edit it. :p

With great power comes great responsibility my friend :cool:

Ha, never thought about and have been using it.......until last night thanks to this post. Game was televised and after watching, looks 1000% better. Toss was a little low however.;)