DOG warning

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

The letter of the rule doesn't say yes, either. Leaving the court for an unauthorized reason is a violation.

Logic says B2 would want to get faked into the stands and you also wouldn't want to stop Team A from potentially getting an easy layup.

I am not thinking of this play as a leaving the court for an unauthorized reason situation but a Delay of Game. They broke the throw in boundary albeit 15 feet away from the thrower in-er.
The rule I am wondering about is 9-2-10:
The opponent(s) of the thrower shall not have any part of his/her person through the inbounds side of the throw-in boundary-line plane until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

I am not thinking of this play as a leaving the court for an unauthorized reason situation but a Delay of Game. They broke the throw in boundary albeit 15 feet away from the thrower in-er.
The rule I am wondering about is 9-2-10:
The opponent(s) of the thrower shall not have any part of his/her person through the inbounds side of the throw-in boundary-line plane until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass.

Was this a spot throw-in? If so, the boundary of the throw-in spot is only 3 feet wide.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Was this a spot throw-in? If so, the boundary of the throw-in spot is only 3 feet wide.

While the throw-in spot is only 3 feet wide the length of the boundary plane remains the same and it is the entire boundary plane to which the rule applies.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

9-2-10: The opponent(s) of the thrower shall not have any part of his/her person through the inbounds side of the throw-in boundary-line plane until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

While the throw-in spot is only 3 feet wide the length of the boundary plane remains the same and it is the entire boundary plane to which the rule applies.

Plane – a flat surface that extends in all directions without end.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

I am not thinking of this play as a leaving the court for an unauthorized reason situation but a Delay of Game. They broke the throw in boundary albeit 15 feet away from the thrower in-er.
The rule I am wondering about is 9-2-10:
The opponent(s) of the thrower shall not have any part of his/her person through the inbounds side of the throw-in boundary-line plane until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass.

While it is this type of violation by the letter of the rule, this is not the type of action intended to be covered by this rule. It is written in the context of a defender covering the thrower and preventing the thrower from being able to make a throw. It was never intended to apply to a player half way down the line that is in no way affecting what the thrower can do. This is not something I'm going to call. Likewise, I'm not calling a violation on a teammate of the thrower for stepping on the line while trying to get open in a similar location.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

While it is this type of violation by the letter of the rule, this is not the type of action intended to be covered by this rule. It is written in the context of a defender covering the thrower and preventing the thrower from being able to make a throw. It was never intended to apply to a player half way down the line that is in no way affecting what the thrower can do. This is not something I'm going to call. Likewise, I'm not calling a violation on a teammate of the thrower for stepping on the line while trying to get open in a similar location.

This is how we called it and was my interpretation of the rule. Just wanted to verify it with those who have been doing this much longer than me. Thanks all.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

While it is this type of violation by the letter of the rule, this is not the type of action intended to be covered by this rule. It is written in the context of a defender covering the thrower and preventing the thrower from being able to make a throw. It was never intended to apply to a player half way down the line that is in no way affecting what the thrower can do. This is not something I'm going to call. Likewise, I'm not calling a violation on a teammate of the thrower for stepping on the line while trying to get open in a similar location.

Camron,
Are you aware that at the NCAA level, the defender can't break the boundary plane until the ball does? So even a defender near the intended recipient of a throw-in pass 25ft away from the thrower would be covered by this rule should the pass be at a sharp angle. In other words, the rule is intended to apply to this at the NCAA level, so I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss it at the HS level.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Camron,
Are you aware that at the NCAA level, the defender can't break the boundary plane until the ball does? So even a defender near the intended recipient of a throw-in pass 25ft away from the thrower would be covered by this rule should the pass be at a sharp angle. In other words, the rule is intended to apply to this at the NCAA level, so I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss it at the HS level.

We nearly had the "ball thown at a sharp angle doesn't break the plane before the offense catches it" violation this weekend.

On the OP, if the action affects the play, get the DOG warning, if not, don't.

99% of the time, don't.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

I am not thinking of this play as a leaving the court for an unauthorized reason situation but a Delay of Game. They broke the throw in boundary albeit 15 feet away from the thrower in-er.
The rule I am wondering about is 9-2-10:
The opponent(s) of the thrower shall not have any part of his/her person through the inbounds side of the throw-in boundary-line plane until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass.

My apologies for the misinterpretation. I blame lack of sleep...for everything, really

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I blame lack of sleep, for everything, really.

I always blame beer, for everything, really.