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Old Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:30pm
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Resting on the flange

1st rd playoff game tonight. After all these years of officiating, I finally witnessed with mine own two eyes, the ball coming to rest on the flange ... on a free throw attempt nonetheless . Wish I had video.
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Old Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:48pm
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Old Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:55pm
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1st rd playoff game tonight. After all these years of officiating, I finally witnessed with mine own two eyes, the ball coming to rest on the flange ... on a free throw attempt nonetheless . Wish I had video.
Once saw a FT wedgie.
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:12am
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:06am
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Ah, the joys of physics!

I had this happen on a shooting foul two years ago in a HS game. It was pretty funny to watch everyone in anticipation as to whether or not it was gonna fall in for an "and 1" and then the unanimous gasp from the crowd when it just sat there.
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:13pm
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They could easily avoid this by designing the flange to not be flat. They could either tilt it or put a small bump in the middle of hit such that a ball that lands on it can't stay on it.
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They could easily avoid this by designing the flange to not be flat. They could either tilt it or put a small bump in the middle of hit such that a ball that lands on it can't stay on it.
For as often as this happens, I think they should just leave it alone. The rim manufacturers may disagree, but I think it is looking for a solution for a problem that does not exist.
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:35pm
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And I think it's a great solution to, admittedly, a very small problem.

Maybe we should take a poll.
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:40pm
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And I think it's a great solution to, admittedly, a very small problem.

Maybe we should take a poll.
After the leg sleeve issue is resolved, please.
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:43pm
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For as often as this happens, I think they should just leave it alone. The rim manufacturers may disagree, but I think it is looking for a solution for a problem that does not exist.
I'm fine with that too, just pointing out that it is very easy to solve...and they don't have to make it mandatory on old rim...just as they get replaced.
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:44pm
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My son is a welder.

Picturing a national tour for him...........
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:27pm
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Ah, the joys of physics!

I had this happen on a shooting foul two years ago in a HS game. It was pretty funny to watch everyone in anticipation as to whether or not it was gonna fall in for an "and 1" and then the unanimous gasp from the crowd when it just sat there.
Imagine if you were waiting to see if it went in before you called a foul.
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I've had this happen a few times. Last year it happened in a GMS game. I couldn't get any of the girls to jump up and knock the ball down.
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I've had this happen a few times. Last year it happened in a GMS game. I couldn't get any of the girls to jump up and knock the ball down.
I presume that you let the clock run out unless the game was tied.
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Old Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:40am
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When I played in HS, '60's, I got on a ladder, with a ball, and verified that it was impossible for the ball to stop on the flange. Then, when they replaced the rims at our HS, the new apparatus had an additional 1/4" plate added at the back of the rim, as reinforcement to help protect the glass backboards from breaking when the ball was dunked. That added depth allowed the ball to come to rest on the flange, but also made it "6 1/4" from the plane of the face of the backboard to the nearest point of the inside of the ring," (see NFHS 1-11-1 and I suspect that a measurement of current rims would so verify.
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