Real mess up????
 

Foul called and Team A is in the bonus. While shooting the FT ont Ref gives the one and one signal and the other one puts up two fingers for two shots. Player misses the shot and Defense gets the rebound. There is confusion as the players are standing there and one coach is yelling for two shots and the other one saying one and one. Regeree at the table blows the play dead. What is correct Arrow or POI?????????

Who said what?
 

What did official administering the free throw inform the players prior to the attempt? What is the POI? That will help inform the answer.

One at lead said one and one and the outside official held up 2 fingers.

I think referee99 was asking you in the sense of "teaching you to fish."

So, were there supposed to be 2 shots (or 1-1)? Have you cheked out case 8.6.1?

8.6.1

The two are not mutually exclusive.

It should have been one and one. My rule bok is at home.

If "all" went for the rebound, then the whistle by trail was an IW. resume as after any IW.

If "one" went for the rebound, then it was an official's mistake. Treat it as an IW when the ball was in the air on the try.

Two things:

As Welpe pointed out, the AP and POI aren't exclusive. The point of interruption includes using the arrow in certain situations.

Second, this play is covered in case book play 8.6.1.

Does 8.6.1. really cover this?
 

I understand your reference to this casebook play. You were using situation C. But in the op he0said the defense rebounded the ball. That could be one player stepping in and rebounding while everybody stands still then starts looking around. You would need to know if all or several from both teams agressively rebounded. From the info provided especially if lead administering FT made mistake I would go with AP. But I was not there

Umm...8.6.1 (there is no 8.6.1 Situation C) covers this exact play. The OP would just have to decide whether to one/both teams were disadvantaged by the wrong information or if neither tam was and go from there.

Clarification!
 

I was making reference to the comment with the IW. The person with the reference to 8.6.1 was dead on. Good job!

8.6.1
 

I misspoke. But there is an 8.6.1 a,b,and c. I made reference to C not situation. That should have been understood if you actually read it.

Quite frankly, I have no idea what you've been saying these past few posts.

I'm the only one who mentioned IW, I think. I stand by my post.

I'm looking at my case book from last year and this year's one...there is no 8.6.1 Situation C.

8.6.1 SITUATION: A1 is about to attempt the first of a one-and-one free-throw
situation. The administering official steps in and erroneously informs players that
two shots will be taken. A1's first attempt is unsuccessful. The missed shot is
rebounded by: (a) B1, with all other players motionless in anticipation of another
throw; (b) A2, with all other players motionless in anticipation of another throw;
or (c) B2, with several players from both teams attempting to secure the rebound.
The officials recognize their error at this point. RULING: In (a) and (b), the official's
error clearly put one team at a disadvantage (players stood motionless and
didn't attempt to rebound). Play should be whistled dead immediately and
resumed using the alternating-possession procedure. In (c), both teams made an
attempt to rebound despite the official's error and had an equal opportunity to
gain possession of the rebound. Play should continue. (2-3)

Appreciate.
 

I appreciatiate your candor. But from the OP u really don't know whether all were hellbent on getting a rebound in which you would be right or whether 1 defensive man stepped in and rebounded and everybody froze and a IW. Either way 8.6.1 gets it right. Enjoyed the debate. !