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JetMetFan Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:49am

Michigan/Indiana Block (Sanzere call 1st half)
 
My apologies to OKREF. This is the play at 10:13 of the 1st half he was asking about. It's also described in the other thread as the call where Sanzere has a block but it looks as though Valentine was going to go with a PC.

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OKREF Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:59am

Yes this is the one. I have a PC here. Just don't see it as a block in any way.

Camron Rust Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:04am

Pc

Welpe Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:17am

Charge it.

ballgame99 Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:21am

Put your hand behind hour head (or don't), that's a PC IMO.

VaTerp Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:33am

Yup, this is the one I was thinking of when I saw the other thread.

I've got PC all the way.

JugglingReferee Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:54am

A block? What the heck did B do wrong?

I've got an easy PC.

Only a fan Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:07pm

Maybe not a block but it appears the defender has arms all over the offensive player prior to any contact that would have been ruled player control. So maybe not a block but an illegal use call with the defenders arm because that certainly is not vertical??? Thoughts?

jeschmit Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:08pm

Valentine was definitely going to go PC here... as well the call should've went.

VaTerp Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Only a fan (Post 877115)
Maybe not a block but it appears the defender has arms all over the offensive player prior to any contact that would have been ruled player control. So maybe not a block but an illegal use call with the defenders arm because that certainly is not vertical??? Thoughts?

Any contact with the arms is incidental here. The major contact is the offensive player's torso going into the chest of a defender with LGP.

Verticality would not even enter my mind, or that of any of the officials' I know and respect, on this play.

Raymond Tue Feb 05, 2013 01:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Only a fan (Post 877115)
Maybe not a block but it appears the defender has arms all over the offensive player prior to any contact that would have been ruled player control. So maybe not a block but an illegal use call with the defenders arm because that certainly is not vertical??? Thoughts?

Sanzere was not in a position to see the arm contact, only Valentine would have seen that.

JRutledge Tue Feb 05, 2013 03:19pm

Charge all the way.

Peace

twocentsworth Tue Feb 05, 2013 04:26pm

THIS is exhibit #1 in why a play is much easier to officiate when it is coming towards an official rather than away from one. Teddy V is the only crew member that would have a GREAT look...others are basically guessing.

JetMetFan Tue Feb 05, 2013 05:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 877229)
THIS is exhibit #1 in why a play is much easier to officiate when it is coming towards an official rather than away from one. Teddy V is the only crew member that would have a GREAT look...others are basically guessing.

Disagree in this case. C may not have gotten it right but that doesn't mean he didn't have the best look. C just didn't officiate the defense on this play.

Given the plays we've posted in this forum I think we've seen there is more of a chance of the L kicking this type than the C. If this was a T to L call I'd be more inclined to agree since neither would be calling across the lane.


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