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OKREF Sat Feb 02, 2013 09:29pm

Indiana/Michigan block/charge
 
10:13 of the first half. Can someone get this. Sure looked like a PC to me. 9:14 also. And 7:06. Something must be wrong. 2 PC's in 1 game!

Nevadaref Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:04pm

The 2nd half blocking foul by Valentine is the only one worthy of discussion.
The defender was moving forward and the offensive player used his arm to push off.

twocentsworth Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 876626)
The 2nd half blocking foul by Valentine is the only one worthy of discussion.
The defender was moving forward and the offensive player used his arm to push off.

This was correctly called a block by Teddy V.

Jay R Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:43am

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 876616)
10:13 of the first half. Can someone get this. Sure looked like a PC to me. 9:14 also. And 7:06. Something must be wrong. 2 PC's in 1 game!

I agree about the block call in the 1st half. It also looked like Teddy V was leaning to call a charge but Sanzere had a block as the Center.

Overall, I thought the game was well officiated. I don't always like Valentine's theatrics (see his kick call in the 1st half, probably pulled a muscle on that one) but he has a great feel for the game and his call selection is at good as it gets in the college game.

JetMetFan Sun Feb 03, 2013 02:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 876626)
The 2nd half blocking foul by Valentine is the only one worthy of discussion.
The defender was moving forward and the offensive player used his arm to push off.

I'm trying to gather the video now. Is the second half blocking foul among the three mentioned in the OP?

JetMetFan Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:04pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 876616)
10:13 of the first half.



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JRutledge Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:06pm

I am going to have to go with the no-call. It looks like there was not much or any block-charge contact. The shooter tried to fade away and was off balance. But the angle we have was not very good to see for sure.

Peace

JetMetFan Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:29pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 876616)
9:14 also.

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 876616)
And 7:06.

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JRutledge Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:32pm

First one was easy.

Second one it is hard to tell by the angle. It looks like the offensive player was trying to get space and knocked the defender on the floor for the most part.

Peace

JetMetFan Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 876626)
The 2nd half blocking foul by Valentine is the only one worthy of discussion.
The defender was moving forward and the offensive player used his arm to push off.

Do you have a time on this?

Camron Rust Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:18am

No call, PC, and PC.

For the last one, look where the offensive players feet end up after the defender goes down relative to where the defenders feet had been. Only way they get there is if the offensive player goes through the defender.

ODog Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:38am

For the last one, just call the travel and block/charge becomes irrelevant.

bob jenkins Mon Feb 04, 2013 08:45am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 876728)
First one was easy.

And look! The "hand behind the head" mechanic.

Rich Mon Feb 04, 2013 09:06am

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Originally Posted by ODog (Post 876746)
For the last one, just call the travel and block/charge becomes irrelevant.

If only there was a travel there.

Indianaref Mon Feb 04, 2013 09:10am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 876741)
No call, PC, and PC.

For the last one, look where the offensive players feet end up after the defender goes down relative to where the defenders feet had been. Only way they get there is if the offensive player goes through the defender.

With these camara angles, this is what I've got.


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