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OKREF Sat Feb 02, 2013 09:16pm
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Originally Posted by upanddown (Post 876500)
We see it all the time with college and NBA and now high school officials (wanna be NCAA/NBA maybe?) using the same 2 handed signal for reporting players number to the table There was once a good reason for changing the number requirements on uniforms and I suspect it's where the One-Hand, one digit at a time signals began.

I remember the days of uniform numbers with 6,7,8,9 in basketball. I was a kid then.. So I'm curious when and why the numbering on uniforms changed to only digits 0-5? And now 00 is excluded as a legal number. Is it for the one-handed reporter? .
The reason is for one handed foul reporting. 00 is a legal number. In our state two handed mechanics is frowned upon by our association.

Forksref Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:46pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 876592)
C'mon Mark Padgett. Now you're being irrational.
Off on a tangent.

Multiple Sports Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:11am
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Originally Posted by APG (Post 876613)
Guys, at least TRY and stay on topic.
APG -

You are doing a great job as moderator but please lighten up a bit......some of us laugh when Billy Mac and Padgett ride each other a bit. I would guess that they even get a kick out of it!!!!!!!


C'mon man !!!!!!!!

BillyMac Mon Feb 04, 2013 07:22am
Get Out Of Jail Free Card ...
 
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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 876740)
Some of us laugh when Billy Mac and Padgett ride each other a bit. I would guess that they even get a kick out of it! C'mon man.
Mark Padgett gets a free pass on anything he posts on the Forum. The moderators will give the same consideration to any other Forum member with a pig's heart. Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. also gets a free pass, but for a different reason. He's the only Forum member who actually officiated a game with Dr. James Naismith. It's true. It's true.

Smitty Mon Feb 04, 2013 09:30am
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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 876740)
some of us laugh when Billy Mac and Padgett ride each other a bit.
Most of us don't.

Rich Mon Feb 04, 2013 09:32am
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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 876770)
Most of us don't.
And we did create an off-topic forum where *all* of the OT nonsense is perfectly on topic...and can be ignored by those who wish to ignore.

jTheUmp Mon Feb 04, 2013 09:39am
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 876539)
First, refiator officiates in Georgia where reporting with two hands, walking and talking is the way the GHSA wants it done. I've seen their training videos and I like it.

Second, telling up and coming officials to slow down is a pretty standard thing. Most less experienced officials are officiating too fast and need to slow down. Your evaluator gave you great advice.
Yep... when in Rome, etc. GHSA apparently (I've never worked in Georgia) wants the two hand reporting and walking and talking. MSHSL wants one-hand reporting and no walking and talking. Fair enough.

Same evaluator claims that he's never, in all his years evaluating, ever told an official to speed up his reporting or signaling mechanics.

egj13 Mon Feb 04, 2013 02:52pm
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Originally Posted by smitty (Post 876770)
most of us don't.
+1

Welpe Mon Feb 04, 2013 02:55pm
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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 876770)
Most of us don't.
And we realized this, which is why things have tightened up.

I get we all want to have a friendly atmosphere, but I'd like to think most of us are concerned about discussing something we enjoy doing but also take seriously.

#olderthanilook Mon Feb 04, 2013 03:13pm
Taboo in my neck of the woods.

More than once during Area Meetings has our area supervisor told the group to get to the reporting area, stop, and use one hand to report numbers.

Addendum: Strict instructions not to turn the hand when showing "11" or "22", etc.

jeremy341a Mon Feb 04, 2013 03:32pm
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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 876770)
Most of us don't.
I don't remember being polled.

Adam Mon Feb 04, 2013 04:28pm
The funny thing is, APG was responding to posts that were deleted. The stuff that remains wasn't the issue.

letemplay Mon Feb 04, 2013 04:48pm
Sorry, I might be dyslexic
 
Just curious, but those of you that do use two hands, do you indicate the first digit with your right hand and the second with your left, so that for '14' the scorer sees a 'one' on THEIR left and the 'four' on THEIR right? I've seen some get this backwards...I know they think they are signalling '14', but the bookkeeper's seeing '41'. Then some are verbalizing "one...four" and others are saying "fourteen". Some standard of consistency would be good.

bob jenkins Mon Feb 04, 2013 07:41pm
SIgnal it so it reads correctly to the scorekeeper.

HawkeyeCubP Mon Feb 04, 2013 08:14pm
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Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 876921)
Then some are verbalizing "one...four" ... Some standard of consistency would be good.
The standard is that this should not be done when reporting.


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