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Chris Whitten Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:51am

team fouls
 
Had a complete newby pulled out of the crowd to run the clock in last night's middle school game. To simplify his duties, team fouls were not required to be displayed on the scoreboard. It was kind of nice too, as at one point fouls were 10-1 against the team of a nasty, whiney, troll of a coach who lacked even basic coaching skills. Troll-coach was not constantly reminded of the foul-count by a scoreboard display, nor were his team's fans, so they were essentially disarmed on this point though the coach had access to the scorebook info.

To my question: We all know coaches use the foul count to attempt to put pressure on officials to even the count, to prove we are cheating, to incite the crowd, etc. Most of us could not give a rat's hind parts what the foul-count is. But it made me wonder if any of you have ever had a game where you instructed the table to NOT display the foul totals, or even during a game to quit displaying them. Yeah, I'm bored. :D

Rich Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:16am

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Originally Posted by Chris Whitten (Post 875782)
Had a complete newby pulled out of the crowd to run the clock in last night's middle school game. To simplify his duties, team fouls were not required to be displayed on the scoreboard. It was kind of nice too, as at one point fouls were 10-1 against the team of a nasty, whiney, troll of a coach who lacked even basic coaching skills. Troll-coach was not constantly reminded of the foul-count by a scoreboard display, nor were his team's fans, so they were essentially disarmed on this point though the coach had access to the scorebook info.

To my question: We all know coaches use the foul count to attempt to put pressure on officials to even the count, to prove we are cheating, to incite the crowd, etc. Most of us could not give a rat's hind parts what the foul-count is. But it made me wonder if any of you have ever had a game where you instructed the table to NOT display the foul totals, or even during a game to quit displaying them. Yeah, I'm bored. :D

I remember having to tell a scoreboard operator that the count stops at 10. At the time I went over to talk to him, the board read 11-2.

Mark Padgett Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:26am

If you "call it both ways" you won't have this problem. :rolleyes:

rekent Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:30am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 875802)
If you "call it both ways" you won't have this problem. :rolleyes:

I love hearing this one... especially when the team whining for calls and wanting an even foul count is a jump shooting team that makes 1 or 2 passes and launches the ball from NBA 3pt range, while the team getting more calls is running a real half-court set, driving the ball, and working for rebounds.

MD Longhorn Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:44am

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Originally Posted by rekent (Post 875806)
I love hearing this one... especially when the team whining for calls and wanting an even foul count is a jump shooting team that makes 1 or 2 passes and launches the ball from NBA 3pt range, while the team getting more calls is running a real half-court set, driving the ball, and working for rebounds.

I love hearing it on the very first foul.

stripes2255 Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:50am

Or
 
hearing "Call it both ways" when the team fouls are 5-5

scrounge Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:51am

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 875812)
I love hearing it on the very first foul.

Ha! Yep, I had that happen last year. Home team committed the first 6 fouls of the game, none yet on visitors. The very first foul on visitors, only about 10 mins into the game, and there it is from the head coach: "CALL IT BOTH WAYS".

I wouldn't say it, but I really wanted to say "well, we're finally starting to".

SNIPERBBB Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:54am

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Originally Posted by stripes2255 (Post 875817)
hearing "Call it both ways" when the team fouls are 5-5


Even better...when the count is in their favor. Happens a few times a year. Heck I had a coach still moaning about fouls when the other team was down to 3 players from foul outs in a 60+ foul count game.

APG Wed Jan 30, 2013 01:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten (Post 875782)
Had a complete newby pulled out of the crowd to run the clock in last night's middle school game. To simplify his duties, team fouls were not required to be displayed on the scoreboard. It was kind of nice too, as at one point fouls were 10-1 against the team of a nasty, whiney, troll of a coach who lacked even basic coaching skills. Troll-coach was not constantly reminded of the foul-count by a scoreboard display, nor were his team's fans, so they were essentially disarmed on this point though the coach had access to the scorebook info.

To my question: We all know coaches use the foul count to attempt to put pressure on officials to even the count, to prove we are cheating, to incite the crowd, etc. Most of us could not give a rat's hind parts what the foul-count is. But it made me wonder if any of you have ever had a game where you instructed the table to NOT display the foul totals, or even during a game to quit displaying them. Yeah, I'm bored. :D

No, I want the team foul count displayed...helps me keep track of how close to the bonus we are. No I won't tell the scoreboard operator to turn off team fouls...just remind them that there's no need to keep count on the board once we've reached 10.

JRutledge Wed Jan 30, 2013 01:29pm

It is really funny when the team yelling this has a foul advantage. That statement is really funny then. ;)

Peace

Adam Wed Jan 30, 2013 01:40pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 875866)
No, I want the team foul count displayed...helps me keep track of how close to the bonus we are. No I won't tell the scoreboard operator to turn off team fouls...just remind them that there's no need to keep count on the board once we've reached 10.

+1

I did, however. tell a freshman coach this year, "that's the last time you mention the foul count."


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