Shots on Intentional foul/Technical foul
Having a brain fart again and have seen it done several ways and don't have direct access to a rule book.
A1 driving to basket on a layup while in flight B1 pushes from behind. Basket doesn't go in. How many shots are awarded for A1 and the ball goes out at POI? Also, simliar type play. A1 drives to basket, B1 pushes from behind then A1 gets up and pushes B back. Intentional foul on B1, Technical foul on A1. Basket was no good...having a huge brain fart rite now. Any help appreciated... |
One the first play not sure what you are considering this foul to actually be. By all accounts it can only be at most an intentional foul. If that is the case you give 2 FTs and the ball.
One the second play you shoot everything in the order it took place. And you give the ball to the offended team on the T because it happened last. Shots being made have little to do with these plays if you are using NF Rules and have nothing to do with POI. All that would matter is how many shots. Peace |
You haven't said what type of foul occurred in scenario #1.
In scenario #2 each foul carries it's own penalty and free throws are shot in order of occurrence. Throw-in goes to last team that was fouled. |
Scenario 1 is an intentional foul. Thanks for your help. I just wasn't sure if the shot went in or not if it mattered. But it doesn't matter because its an Intentional foul and not control.
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In his second play here who shoots for the intentional technical? Does it have to be B1 or anybody on B? I've hear it argued both ways.
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Any team member can shoot any technical foul free throws. Even if the player is subbed in just for the free throws. Even if a non-starter is subbed in before the start of the game to shoot the free throws.
Who would ever say a particular player has to shoot technical free throws??? :confused: |
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The reasoning was that it was the player who was contacted that would shoot. In this case B1. No real support for it but it's what he thought.
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First thing to remember is that intentional fouls are always 2 shots and possession of the ball at the spot closest to the foul, whether it's during a try or not, whether the try goes in or not. There's no "and-1" with an intentional foul; it's just 2 shots and the ball. The only exception is if a player is intentionally fouled during an unsuccessful 3-point try. In that case, the offended player shoots 3 free throws. But other than that one case, you're going to give two free throws to the fouled player, regardless of what else happens. Second thing, as JRutledge has pointed out, is that POI plays no part in an intentional foul administration. Possession of the ball is always part of the penalty. In your case, if you use the POI, you get a very unfair result. You have an interruption during a try (no more team control) that is unsuccessful. If you go to the point of interruption, you have to use the possession arrow, which could easily give the ball to the team that committed the intentional foul! Not a good outcome. So don't think in terms of POI when dealing with intentional fouls. Just think 2 free throws to player who was fouled, and possession of the ball to that player's team at the spot closest to where the foul occurred. |
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