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jeremy341a Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:32am

Slapping the backboard in pregame?
 
In a game I was watching the other night one team when they came out for warmup instad of doing rim jumps formed two lines and run down and they all jump and slap the backboard. They didn't do it super forceful but hard enough to shake the backboard a little. Is this legal?

JRutledge Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:49am

There is no mention of this in the rulebook that I could ever find. So it is legal. And honestly why would you care? Slapping the backboard does not have the same consequences as dunking the backboard.

Peace

Freddy Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 874988)
In a game I was watching the other night one team when they came out for warmup instad of doing rim jumps formed two lines and run down and they all jump and slap the backboard. They didn't do it super forceful but hard enough to shake the backboard a little. Is this legal?

Interesting.

10-3-4b: "A player shall not...intentionally contact the backboard/ring by...intentionally slapping or striking the backboard...while a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket".

However, the usual pre-game shenanigans that mean a bench technical, 10-4-1i mentions only "Grasping either basket except to prevent injury; dunking or stuffing, or attempting to dunk or stuff a dead ball."

Therefore, when putting those two things together, it seems that Article 3 does not apply to the pregame activities and your high-flying pregame warmer-uppers are ok doing that. Unless they're wrecking stuff--then it's a site administrator issue.

That's off the top of my head.

Or has my attempt at reason missed something else obvious?

OKREF Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:02am

Nothing. Only grasping the ring and pulling it down.

bob jenkins Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:05am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 874988)
In a game I was watching the other night one team when they came out for warmup instad of doing rim jumps formed two lines and run down and they all jump and slap the backboard. They didn't do it super forceful but hard enough to shake the backboard a little. Is this legal?

Two options:

1) Flagrant T on all players. Declare a forfeit, collect your check, go home.

2) Nothing.

tjones1 Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 874998)
Two options:

1) Flagrant T on all players. Declare a forfeit, collect your check, go home.

2) Nothing.

Keep in mind...

With Option 1, it will likely be the last check you collect. ;)

JugglingReferee Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 874999)
Keep in mind...

With Option 1, it will likely be the last check you collect. ;)

And even if you declared the game a forfeit, collected a cheque, and went home, the PTB that step in and say nope, and play the game, "again".

grunewar Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:20am

Great advice for young officials
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 874998)
Two options:

1) Flagrant T on all players. Declare a forfeit, collect your check, go home.

2) Nothing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 874999)
Keep in mind...

With Option 1, it will likely be the last check you collect. ;)

Is this another way of saying, "Don't be a craftsman who installs and repairs pipes and fixtures and appliances?"

jeremy341a Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:22am

I did not have many options as a spectator. I also didn't have the option to even eat popcorn while they did it as
1. The place doesn't have any. (This should be a flagrant T.)
2. The place doesn't allow food or drinks in the gym. (This should be a T.)

JRutledge Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 875003)
I did not have many options as a spectator. I also didn't have the option to even eat popcorn while they did it as
1. The place doesn't have any. (This should be a flagrant T.)
2. The place doesn't allow food or drinks in the gym. (This should be a T.)

If you see something as a spectator more often than not being ignored or not penalized, then chances are it is not illegal.

And how does a school not have popcorn? Is that possible?

Peace

tjones1 Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 875003)
I did not have many options as a spectator. I also didn't have the option to even eat popcorn while they did it as
1. The place doesn't have any. (This should be a flagrant T.)
2. The place doesn't allow food or drinks in the gym. (This should be a T.)

I've heard of no drinks in a gym... but never seen no popcorn allowed.

That's wrong and I wouldn't stand there and let them bad mouth The United States of America... gentlemen! :D

Freddy Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 875001)
Is this another way of saying, "Don't be a craftsman who installs and repairs pipes and fixtures and appliances?"

Nice! ;)

Camron Rust Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 874994)
Interesting.

10-3-4b: "A player shall not...intentionally contact the backboard/ring by...intentionally slapping or striking the backboard...while a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket".


Or has my attempt at reason missed something else obvious?

Can you have a tap/try during a dead ball? (The ball isn't live during pregame).


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