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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:44pm
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Fan T?

Buddy told me he gave a T to the crowd the other night. I've never done this although I've wanted to on several occasions.

My question is A. Does coach have to sit? Is it an indirect T? 2. What happens if you gave the crowd a second T?

At work without rule book or Id look it up.
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:48pm
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Why not have the fan removed from the game? It is unfair to penalize the team if one knucklehead thinks he can't run his mouth because he paid $5 admission.

The scenario where a crowd T is warranted would have to be a major action by the entire fanbase. For instance, there is a small college team where the fans all lob rolls of toilet paper on the court after the first basket is scored each season. They take their T and move on to keep the tradition.
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:50pm
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Dunno. Wasnt there. Ive never called it.
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:51pm
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Would never do it. Just jet the fan if it is bad enough.
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:17pm
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Buddy told me he gave a T to the crowd the other night. I've never done this although I've wanted to on several occasions.

My question is A. Does coach have to sit? Is it an indirect T? 2. What happens if you gave the crowd a second T?

At work without rule book or Id look it up.
It's a Team technical, so it's not going to go to the coach.

I agree with the others that there are (likely) better ways to handle this.
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:30pm
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Buddy told me he gave a T to the crowd the other night. I've never done this although I've wanted to on several occasions.

My question is A. Does coach have to sit? Is it an indirect T? 2. What happens if you gave the crowd a second T?

At work without rule book or Id look it up.
What was the T for? I can only think T'ing up the crowd would make things worse.
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:58pm
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Coaches Coach, Officials Officiate, Spectators Spectate ...

2.8.1 SITUATION: What guidelines should be exercised by the officials when
spectators’ actions are such that they interfere with the administration of the
game?

RULING: The rules book states “the official may rule fouls on either team
if its supporters act in such a way as to interfere with the proper conduct of the
game.” It is significant to note the word used is “may.” This gives permission, but
does not in any way imply that officials must call technical fouls on team followers
or supporters for unsporting acts. Thus, while officials do have the authority
to penalize a team whose spectators interfere with the proper conduct of the
game, this authority must be used with extreme caution and discretion. While the
authority is there, the official must rarely use it, because experience has demonstrated
that calling hasty technical fouls on the crowd rarely solves the problem
and may, in fact, result in penalizing the wrong team because the official may not
have proper knowledge as to which team's supporters were responsible for the
unsporting act.

COMMENT: Responsibility for the behavior of spectators is that
of home or game management. The rules book stipulates that insofar as the management
can reasonably be expected to control the spectators, it is its responsibility
to do so. Home management has the responsibility of providing a site where
the game can proceed in a sporting manner. If the conduct of spectators prohibits
the orderly continuance of a game, the officials should have a representative of
game management take whatever action is necessary. This may require the
removal of a team follower(s). This can be done without charging the supporters'
team with a technical foul. The advised procedure is for the official to notify game
management as to which follower(s) must be removed from the site. The officials
may stop the game until host management resolves the situation. Another problem
arises when team supporters throw debris, paper, coins, ice or other items
on the floor. If the official has positive knowledge as to which supporter(s) threw
the items, the official should instruct game management to have the supporter(s)
removed from the site. As in the previous case, this can be done without charging
the supporters' team with a technical foul. If the official does not have positive
knowledge, the official should instruct game management to make a public
address announcement stating that the next time debris is thrown on the floor, it
will result in a technical foul charged to that supporters' team and will also result
in the supporter(s) being removed from the facility. If after the announcement, the
situation is not brought under control, the officials may also stop the game until
host management resolves the situation. In most situations, after an announcement
has been made, game management is very aware of the problem and will
usually have positive knowledge as to which supporter(s) threw the items on the
floor. If the disruption is not brought under control and the contest cannot safely
continue, rather than assess several technical fouls, officials are advised to
suspend the game.
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Old Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:01pm
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Wall of text Billy...you should format that a lot better.
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