Waiting on a tech?
 

A makes a steal and has an apparent 2 on zero breakaway. B's coach issues some creative language regarding your parentage, earning a T.

1) Do you wait until the breakaway has scored before issuing the T?
2) What if the first shot is missed, but B team defenders are still not back and A still has another easy shot - wait still?

Wait until the scoring opportunity passes. It's a casebook play, I think.

Question 1 was for the partner I discussed this with... who did not do that.
Question 2 was more for me... how long is "the scoring opportunity".

Yes, it is. 10.4.1

As soon as the shot is made or missed, assess the T

Delayed whistle. Let the play happen, if they score on the lay up then get it, if they don't then get it after the attempt.

1. Most definitely wait.
2. I'd still wait in this situation.

So would I. I see no limit on time or number of attempts. The key phase for me is "defenders are still not back."

I'd wait until Team B got possession.

1). Wait
2). Wait....
...Now Go....

Just do not call the T when the player is shooting.

I had a partner do this and there was an issue of if the basket counted or if it did not count (not by the crew but the coach). No hurry to call the T when a team is driving hard to the basket.

Peace

Withhold Whistle ...
 

10.4.1 SITUATION F: A1 is driving toward the basket for an apparent goal when
the official, while trailing the play advancing in the direction in which the ball is
being advanced, is cursed by the head coach or bench personnel of Team B. How
should the official handle this situation? RULING: The official shall withhold blowing
the whistle until A1 has either made or missed the shot. The official shall then
sound the whistle and assess the Team B head coach or bench personnel with a
technical foul. If the official judges the act to be flagrant, the offender shall be
ejected. If A’s coach or bench personnel was the offender, the whistle shall be
sounded immediately when the unsporting act occurs. (10-4-1a)

I see no reason not to wait.

Hahaha!!

Vicious!:D

I had a situation like this last night, but with an intentional foul.

A1 had had the ball stolen by B1 at A's end of the floor. A1 and B1 both go to the floor but B has a breakaway. A1 is mad because she fell and lost the ball and throws an elbow into B1 while on the ground. I waited to call the foul after B scored the layup but wasn't sure if this is right. The more my partners and I thought about it, it should have been called right away since that reduces the risk of retaliation. Thoughts?

You do not wait to call intentional fouls. Only technical fouls you can wait because you are reacting to conduct, not contact. You should have called the foul right away or you will have other action that will continue and you might have to call other things. I do not like to say never, but never wait for an intentional foul to be called just because someone is trying to score.

Peace

That is certainly not a intentional foul, its a go-straight-to-jail flagrant.

1) I whistled the T on A1....
2) Which stopped B's breakaway....
3) Which then had B's HC all over me when I went to the table to report the T on A1.....
4) Which then had my (more experienced) P, during the next TO, taking me to task for what B's HC had just chewed my butt for.....
5) Why P couldn't hold off on his constructive criticism until we got into the locker room at halftime still has me miffed.....

Reading this thread, needless to say I pooched this one.

Thoughts?

It is possible your partner did not wait until you got to the locker room because now that situation could come up again and it needs to be dealt with accordingly. Like what if coach A chews one of you and then you give him a T? You know that coach will claim he was singled out. Some things cannot wait for halftime, but that being said it would really depend on what he actually said to you for me to think that would be inappropriate at that time.

Peace

Fair point Rut, and in hindsight I'm sure that was his intent.

It was more the manner/style in which he did it coupled with the fact that there were only :05 seconds left in the half.

But all that said, where I'm still not clear from a mechanics/procedural standpoint if B doesn't make the basket, or if there's no other whistle for a violation, turnover, or foul on B's breakaway......

I hold my whistle for A1's T, B misses the shot on the breakaway, A gets the rebound......that's when I should whistle the T? Correct?