There are dead spots in the paint when large numbers of bodies are packed in there at times, so let's go nuts when that happens, guys.

I find the whole concept dirty.

And far be it from a coach or player to do anything dirty.

Right. We should get this line published somewhere.

We get $ 5.00 extra for working a varsity girls game with two people. Two private schools are the only ones that do this. One of the coaches got on me about a non call the other night and my reply was, tell your A/D that is what he gets for not coming off the extra $$$$$ to have 3 refs on the floor.

Objection.......argumentative

I wouldn't get into the habit of saying this to a coach.

jmo

It's not only specific spots, it's general coverage.

If all fouls were seen with 3 officials, then maybe only 2/3 of the fouls are seen with 2 officials. So, "play more agressive" and you'll be able to commit 7 fouls before you get called for 5.

(The math and logic isn't quite right, of course, but the general concept is.0

Easy now Bob...you are just being dirty now. :rolleyes:

For the coaches benefit, (can't believe I said that) putting any faith in a blanket concept such as this one has large potential to break your heart. Depending on a variety of factors, this 2 man crew, may call more/tighter and yes, possibly even a better game overall than that 3 man crew.

Of course.

And then the coaches and players adjust.

Well the game was much simpler when Custer County beat Missoula, 11-6, circa 1923. :D

I don't think it was us. We've been using 3 man for all varsity games for over 20 years. It's mandated by the NCHSAA.

Our local also works 3 man for all JV games in the one 3A and two 4A conferences that we work. How else can you prepare officials to work varsity?

+1

These are some the hardest games to work with two.

Life in the big city...
 

I had a public school AD tell me a couple of weeks ago he's going to push for 3-person crews. NYC only does 3-person in the regular season for AA Varsity in Catholic and Private schools, not public (AA is the highest level of ball in NYC/NYS) and his school is AA public. He said he can't see how we call that level of ball with only two people.

My BV assigner suggested to us a few years ago that we should go 3-person in exchange for a cut in pay to help schools deal with the cost. We're at $105 for 2-person. He said we should go $75 for 3-person, meaning it would only cost the schools $15 for the third, the fees would eventually go back up and more people would get Varsity work. Overwhelming majority of officials said no way. I thought - and still think - the folks who said no were nuts.

NYC publics go 3-person starting with the city QF at all levels (AA, A & B). A few years ago NYS actually went back to 2-person crews for the state semis and finals. The organizers said they were having trouble finding enough officials who understood how to work 3-person so they went back to two. It's back to three again.

I am friends with the A/D at that school and he refs with us some. I would not say that to just any coach. If the A/D rides with me to a game, we ususally have a chat about the $$$ he is savign by using two man crews.

So, did I just read about a suspension that is applicable to this conversation?