Shot Clock Error
 

White has the ball near their basket. They lose possession with about 7 seconds left on the shot clock. Red now has possession of the ball and as they are in transition to their basket, but before they attempt a shot, the shot clock horn sounds because the shot clock operator forgot to reset the shot clock when white lost possession of the ball. When the shot clock buzzer sounds red stops playing. What is the correct call? Do you penalize red for not continueing to play when no whistle was blown? Do you stop the game and put 23 seconds on a remaining shot clock for red?

If a scoring play isn't imminent, stop play, correct the shot clock, then give it to red.

Your post indicates that you had definite knowledge of an error by the table in not properly resetting the shot clock. So why would you even consider punishing the Red team as an option?

Yes, reset to :30 Red throw in at POI.

Shot Clock Error
 

In the pre game we instructed both teams to play our whistle and not the horn. When the shot clock buzzer sounded we did not blow our whistles as red had an opportunity to score. When it was obvious red stopped playing we blew our whistles and dealt with the situation, in question.

I hear a lot of this, and at first I thought I liked it, but then I realized I don't want players fully ignorant of the horn since it signals the end of all periods, while the whistle in those same instances means absolutely nothing and is often not blown at all.

With definite knowledge, you can fix this and move on easily.

In NCAA-W, reset the shot clock at 23 and put the ball in play OOB closest to where it was when the error was noticed.

In NCAA-M, reset the shot clock at 28 and put the ball in play OOB closest to where it was when the error was noticed.

You could go to the monitor for a timing error if you didn't have definite knowledge... if you have access to a monitor.

We always have a whistle at the end of a quarter/half.

We don't. We only sound the whistle if there's something questionable, i.e. a try after the horn, near the end of the period.

Agreed, if the "normal" shot clock period is :37. ;)

As do we, by the official who has last shot responsibility.

Do you whistle in subs?

When In Connecticut ...
 

Only if my partner (two person in old fashioned Connecticut) doesn't have a good angle to see the table and is about ready to administer and the timer is asleep at the switch at sounding the horn. We seldom, if ever, whistle in substitutes when the timer does his job and sounds the horn at the proper time. Usually it's just the "come hither" beckon signal, maybe with a "Sub" oral beckon.

I don't. I yell "Sub!" and beckon.

Back to the whistle to end a period, I don't think I've whistled the end of a period more than 5-10 times ever. We were taught it has no significance unless the horn fails to fire (or it's clear the players didn't respond to the horn).

Ubercool ...
 

You guys have pyrotechnics scoreboards? Cool.

Fine if that's your local practice. The NFHS official's manual does say that we whistle in subs.

(No, Rut, you don't have to tell me that you don't follow the NFHS manual in Northeast Illinois.)

I watch a lot of JV games before my varsity games where the officials don't whistle in the subs. It just seems awkward without the whistle -- the official waves, the kid hesitates, the official waves again...personally, I can't imagine not using a whistle.

Back to the original thread. My hijack is over. Besides, didn't we go round and round on this topic a few years ago?

Didn't have my calculator handy.;)

slippery slope
 

They play to the whistle, not the shot clock horn, which should be different from the quarter ending buzzer. The end of a period buzzer means nothing that happens afterwards counts. The shot clock may, and sometimes does, go off with the ball is still legally in play.

I cannot see giving a team a Mulligan for playing to the shot clock rather than the whistle.

I think it depends on when the horn goes off and how the teams (plural) react.

As described in the OP, the officials are going to stop play to reset the clock anyway.

Yep...We pre-game...whistle at the end of a quarter/half by THE official with last shot responsibility (seems like to often we get 2 whistles at the end of a quarter/half in a 3-man crew)

Also, whistle for every sub.

Sorry to keep the hijack going 1 tick longer, but I finally had time to look this up: There is no mention of a whistle in IAABO's Substitution Procedures and Guidelines, which explains why BillyMac and I, living in IAABO states as we do, don't practice this.

But I have no issue with it.