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SCalScoreKeeper Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:00pm

Book set up
 
Hey everyone had this come up during varsity girls pre-game:

R is checking the book and counts 1 more player in the book than on the floor.I copy the entire roster in and then get the DNP's from each coach and she said that threw her count off.would you rather see entire rosters with DNP in the scoring column of those who were not active or just the active players?

Adam Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:46pm

I'd rather see more. I couldn't care less about whether someone doesn't play, but if they might, I'd rather they were in.

Had a T tonight for that. Just a pain.

Raymond Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:37pm

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 871263)
... she said that threw her count off.would you rather see entire rosters with DNP in the scoring column of those who were not active or just the active players?

Players are not required to warm up. Does it throw off her count if someone is in the locker room getting their ankle re-wrapped or fixing a wardrobe malfunction?

JRutledge Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:50pm

More is always good. Less could be a problem.

Peace

constable Thu Jan 10, 2013 07:06am

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 871263)
Hey everyone had this come up during varsity girls pre-game:

R is checking the book and counts 1 more player in the book than on the floor.I copy the entire roster in and then get the DNP's from each coach and she said that threw her count off.would you rather see entire rosters with DNP in the scoring column of those who were not active or just the active players?

I fail to see the issue with having more players on the book then on the floor.

BillyMac Thu Jan 10, 2013 07:48am

Agree ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 871285)
More is always good. Less could be a problem.

Agree, more or less.

Tio Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:18am

Who cares? Players can be in the book and not play. The only reason why the number of players matters is to avoid a team missing a player and avoiding a technical foul by catching it before the 10-minute mark to tip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 871263)
Hey everyone had this come up during varsity girls pre-game:

R is checking the book and counts 1 more player in the book than on the floor.I copy the entire roster in and then get the DNP's from each coach and she said that threw her count off.would you rather see entire rosters with DNP in the scoring column of those who were not active or just the active players?


SCalScoreKeeper Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:35am

You mentioned the 10 minute mark for having rosters in-I already have the book prepped well before arriving at school.I keep rosters on hand for myself and our announcer and ask each visiting coach to verify the information and make any additions or subtractions and get the starters at half of the jv boys game.The visiting varsity girls coach didn't have her starters when I asked so she just verified her roster and I got the starters from her scorer at the start of the clock.Usually I am able to get both sets of starters in before warm-up even begins.

bainsey Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:46am

Player is in the book, but not on the floor = no problem.

Player on the floor, but not in the book = PROBLEM.

tomegun Thu Jan 10, 2013 01:47pm

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 871327)
You mentioned the 10 minute mark for having rosters in-I already have the book prepped well before arriving at school.I keep rosters on hand for myself and our announcer and ask each visiting coach to verify the information and make any additions or subtractions and get the starters at half of the jv boys game.The visiting varsity girls coach didn't have her starters when I asked so she just verified her roster and I got the starters from her scorer at the start of the clock.Usually I am able to get both sets of starters in before warm-up even begins.

So you keep track of teams' rosters and only ask for updates? Overkill IMO, but you are the one keeping the book.

I don't know about anyone else, but this is the first time I have ever heard of putting DNP by a player for a high school game.

JRutledge Thu Jan 10, 2013 02:04pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 871351)
So you keep track of teams' rosters and only ask for updates? Overkill IMO, but you are the one keeping the book.

I don't know about anyone else, but this is the first time I have ever heard of putting DNP by a player for a high school game.

I have had scorers and coaches cross off players that are not in uniform. Never understand why they do that or care, but they do not know the rules so what else is new?

Peace

rockyroad Thu Jan 10, 2013 02:07pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 871353)
I have had scorers and coaches cross off players that are not in uniform. Never understand why they do that or care, but they do not know the rules so what else is new?

Peace

It's not a rule.

It's a way for the Coaches to keep track of how many games a players has played in...used to calculate quarters played for lettering, calculate averages like points per game, etc...

JRutledge Thu Jan 10, 2013 02:43pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 871356)
It's not a rule.

It's a way for the Coaches to keep track of how many games a players has played in...used to calculate quarters played for lettering, calculate averages like points per game, etc...

It is a rule to keep off a player that is not going to play in a game that particular night?

That was the only thing I was referencing. We are not going to give a T if they have more players in the book or the wrong number if that player will never see the court.

Peace

rockyroad Thu Jan 10, 2013 02:50pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 871364)
It is a rule to keep off a player that is not going to play in a game that particular night?

That was the only thing I was referencing. We are not going to give a T if they have more players in the book or the wrong number if that player will never see the court.

Peace

Nope.

They can have as many in the book as they want, whether they will play that night or not. Crossing off the name or writing DNP next to the name is just a statistics thing.

BillyMac Thu Jan 10, 2013 02:50pm

Rather Be Safe Than Sorry ...
 
Back when I was coaching middle school basketball, I would list all fourteen players on the team in the scorebook, in numerical order, for every single game, even if they were on the bench with a crutches, and a cast, or home, sick with the flu. What's the harm?


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