Originally Posted by icallfouls (Post 872069)

Wasn't trying to be harsh or condescending, but now here you go.

I really don't think that "being a 3rd year official" is an excuse for not knowing the rules. That particular situation has been in the manuals previously (try your online casebook if you don't, have your manuals with you, it can be found 9.1.1 Situation. It is apparent that more officials need to spend more time on the rules. Do yourself, your partners, and the game a favor, learn the rules.

We aren't getting paid to gradually learn the rules, or learn them as we go. Your said that you are "only a third year official" which is a "piss poor excuse." I have worked college games with 3rd year officials that have saved the crew because they took the time to learn and know the rules while they were working to improve other aspects of their game.

If you have not seen this play ever, work more youth games, it happens. That is why it is in the book, that you have yet to read. Did you even look it up after your game? Do you take your rule books with you to games?

We need our partners to know the rules. Be the partner the crew has confidence in, not the partner we can't go to because rules knowledge is weak.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 872100)

"You'll learn it better if you look it up yourself and you'll likely find something else you didn't know."

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 872313)

Feelings are irrelevant. What's the rule/case play say?

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 872291)

I feel it should be a violation in the fact that if the ball rolls a way they shooter can not retreive it without crossing a boundry and if they don't retreive it they will not shoot the ball with in 10 seconds.

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 872322)

No player control, so no time out to prevent a violation?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 872325)

Player control is not required.

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 872322)

No player control, so no time out to prevent a violation?

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 872328)

I would agree to this.

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 872327)

Forget the muff, or dropped ball, for now. Pretend the shooter still has the ball in her hands.



For the shooter's team to call a timeout during a live ball?

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 872314)

You are right no excuses. More time in the books it is. Yes I did look it up after the game and yes I take the rules book and case book and handbook with me to every game.
No one knows every rule perfectly, every case play perfectly or can rule properly every situation, every time. No one.