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JugglingReferee Sun Jan 06, 2013 03:44pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 870403)
Shooter gets fouled while in the act of shooting, the ball goes in, I waive off the basket, and give the shooter 2 shots. Not very common, but I've had it happen 2-3 times over the years. How? The shooter traveled prior to releasing the shot.

I get this about once every other season.

26 Year Gap Sun Jan 06, 2013 04:02pm

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Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 870407)
I was going to mention a 5 point play I had last season (or maybe two years ago) but rockyroad beat me to it. The other occurence I had was a game where the winning team in a V-boys game I did several years ago did not attempt a single free throw. I didn't realize it until reading about it in the newspaper the next day.

I guess it didn't matter that you didn't call it both ways.;)

maven Sun Jan 06, 2013 04:48pm

Multiple foul.

BktBallRef Sun Jan 06, 2013 04:50pm

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Originally Posted by maven (Post 870458)
Multiple foul.

Actually, I think that happens in almost every every game, we just don't call it.

BillyMac Sun Jan 06, 2013 05:09pm

Multiple Foul ...
 
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 870459)
Actually, I think that happens in almost every every game, we just don't call it.

Then actually calling a multiple foul would be the one point safety.

Bad Zebra Sun Jan 06, 2013 05:53pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 870451)
I guess it didn't matter that you didn't call it both ways.;)

You'd think...the real odd part was that neither coach ever mentioned the foul count or complained. That's probably why we never realized it until the next day.

Camron Rust Sun Jan 06, 2013 05:54pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 870466)
Then actually calling a multiple foul would be the one point safety.

There is a difference between something unusually that almost never happens and something that could be called relative often but we choose not to call it.

Mark Padgett Sun Jan 06, 2013 06:10pm

Had this happen a few years ago in a 6th grade boys rec game. A1 shoots a 3 and he is pushed hard in the back by B1 on the shot. The shot goes in. My partner calls an intentional on B1. Coach B yells at B1 for what he did and throws his clipboard onto the court. WHACK! I call it. A1, who is not hurt, makes his two for the intentional, then makes the two for the technical. Coach B requests and is granted a TO and during it, his AC says something to my partner and WHACK! again on the AC this time. We come out of the TO and A1 shoots the FTs for the T on the AC and makes both.

The kid scored nine points in about 2 seconds going off the clock (during his initial shot). Not only that, when team A inbounded the ball after the T he took a 3 right off the inbound pass and it just rolled out. That would have given him 12 points in about 5 seconds. And no - he didn't get fouled on the shot - that really would have been something.

BillyMac Sun Jan 06, 2013 06:31pm

Surprise Party ...
 
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 870481)
There is a difference between something unusually that almost never happens and something that could be called relative often but we choose not to call it.

Difference? Yes. But one thing that I know for sure is that if I decide to charge a multiple foul in one of my games that it would certainly surprise the heck out of my partner, the entire table crew, all the players on both teams, all the coaches on both teams, all of the fans from both teams, the policeman in the corner, the concession stand workers, and as soon as my partner got to his smartphone, it would surprise the heck out of the 325 officials on my local board.

McMac Sun Jan 06, 2013 06:32pm

I had a 6 point play. I was T, A1 shot a 3 and made the shot. While the shot was still in the air, B1 fouled A2 (not in the bonus), called by the L. Our crew got together to confirm the details, but the score counted and A in-bounded the ball on the endline and immediately put up another 3 in which they made.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sun Jan 06, 2013 08:13pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 870413)
0:00 on the clock but the horn has not sounded.

I've had it once in 24 years.


Tony:

I have had it several times, but of course you are just a "youngin', :D" when it comes to the number of years that we have been in this racket.

MTD, Sr.

Rich Sun Jan 06, 2013 08:19pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 870531)
Tony:

I have had it several times, but of course you are just a "youngin', :D" when it comes to the number of years that we have been in this racket.

MTD, Sr.

I used to be amazed at those who have been doing this for 40 or so years. But now that I'm in my 26th year...I'm amazed that I'm still going at it. Actually, I can see myself doing this for another 10-15 years, at least.

I have 11 varsity HS or juco dates in the next 13 days. And looking forward to it. We'll see how I feel in mid-February. :D

26 Year Gap Sun Jan 06, 2013 09:36pm

2 consecutive FTs coming to rest on the flange.

chapmaja Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:16pm

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Originally Posted by McMac (Post 870491)
I had a 6 point play. I was T, A1 shot a 3 and made the shot. While the shot was still in the air, B1 fouled A2 (not in the bonus), called by the L. Our crew got together to confirm the details, but the score counted and A in-bounded the ball on the endline and immediately put up another 3 in which they made.

I have that beat. Similar situation. We had a team attempt a 3, and while the ball was in flight, the defensive team pushed the opponent out of the way fighting for a rebound. I was the lead and called the foul on the defense. On the inbound play the team throws to a 3 point shooter who gets pushed after he releases the shot, but before he lands. The shot goes in. He then makes the free throw, making this essentially a 7 point play. About 5 seconds later they got two more free throws because the captain of the defensive team could not understand that the opponents would get the ball on the first situation and starting swearing at me. That really made it 9 points in a matter of three or 4 seconds coming off the clock. They also attempted to protest a mis-application of the rules, but we shot down on that.

SAJ Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:11am

Goaltending on a free throw


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