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BillyMac Mon Dec 24, 2012 08:27pm

Don't Needle Me ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 868553)
I've never lost a needle. Goes in the jacket pocket. Since I fold/store my jacket inside out and never wash it, it stays right in the pocket.

Funny you should mention this. Up until this season, I've used the same IAABO jacket for the past twenty-five plus years. And I had the same needle in my pocket for twenty-five plus years. Never lost it. It was tarnished after all this time. This year, our local board switched to a "local board" jacket. The pockets aren't anywhere as deep as the pockets on my old IAABO jacket. I've only been officiating for about three weeks and I've already lost three needles, the original tarnished one, and two additional ones. I actually had to go down to our local discount store and buy a pack of needles a few days ago. There's no way that I'm going to lose another one, so I've used a piece of duct tape to tape the needle to the inside of my jacket. Stupid jacket.

rockyroad Mon Dec 24, 2012 08:29pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 868546)
And here we are at the inevitable result:
You're wrong, but I don't really care that you're wrong. You should do it my way, though.

Some things just shouldn't surprise us anymore, you know...

rockyroad Mon Dec 24, 2012 08:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 868553)
I've never lost a needle. Goes in the jacket pocket. Since I fold/store my jacket inside out and never wash it, it stays right in the pocket.

I'm anal about the amount of air in the ball, I guess. Ideally, I want it to be at the low end of the range and I make sure it's there for every game I'm the R.

If you don't do it, no big deal.

I think I said it wasn't a big deal, too...I honestly have never had a problem getting a different ball when needed.

BillyMac Mon Dec 24, 2012 08:39pm

All Bow Down To The "Game Ball" ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 868578)
I honestly have never had a problem getting a different ball when needed.

We've got a few schools in our area that have "game balls". These are balls that are not used in practice, are not used during warmups, and never come into contact with the other "unwashed" basketballs. The "game ball" is stored in the athletic director's office, under lock, and key, until the game is about to begin, and then it comes out of storage and is given to the officials. If it's over inflated, then it's real easy to stick it with a needle. If it's under inflated, which it seldom, if ever, is, then we just pick an "unwashed" ball from the rack.

DRJ1960 Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:41pm

Does anyone give Coaches enough credit to believe that they deliberatly inflate/deflate the game ball to gain a small advantage for their team?

Adam Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:52pm

No, I don't.

Raymond Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:32pm

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Originally Posted by DRJ1960 (Post 868583)
Does anyone give Coaches enough credit to believe that they deliberatly inflate/deflate the game ball to gain a small advantage for their team?

I worked with a crew chief who said he did this when he was coaching.

bainsey Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:27am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac
You just put your lips together and blow into the needle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 868553)
I'm anal about the amount of air in the ball...

I think I prefer Billy's method.

JRutledge Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:38am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 868546)
And here we are at the inevitable result:
You're wrong, but I don't really care that you're wrong. You should do it my way, though.

Not sure I agree with that take. I think people do different things. Officiating is like a lot of things in life, people do different things and that is OK. ;)

Peace

JRutledge Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:42am

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Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 868549)
Never carried a needle.

The only people I've ever see carry a needle are over 60yrs old!

Well I am far from that age and I know many younger than me that do the same. ;)

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Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 868549)
If the ball is flat or too hard, I simply get a new ball....it's not that difficult to accomplish. (btw 75% of the time it is too flat).

Not true in my experience, they are usually over-inflated. Kind of why many carry a needle in the first place. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 868549)
NEVER thought to carry a pump.

I have not either. Like I said almost never need one.

Peace

Adam Tue Dec 25, 2012 01:03am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 868592)
Well I am far from that age and I know many younger than me that do the same. ;)



Not true in my experience, they are usually over-inflated. Kind of why many carry a needle in the first place. ;)



I have not either. Like I said almost never need one.

Peace

I've never carried one, but at times have wished I had one. I'm getting one before my next game. Most of the local big dogs around here do. And I have seen exactly one ball that needed more air.

amusedofficial Tue Dec 25, 2012 05:28am

I'm not real big on being the home team equipment manager. They need to provide a ball that meets the rules. I don't mark or sweep the courts, set up the clock, sell the hot dogs or take tickets either.

JRutledge Tue Dec 25, 2012 05:34am

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Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 868602)
I'm not real big on being the home team equipment manager. They need to provide a ball that meets the rules. I don't mark or sweep the courts, set up the clock, sell the hot dogs or take tickets either.

It would take you much longer to get another ball or have someone provide one than it takes to let air out of the ball. Probably does not take more than 5 seconds. ;)

Peace

BktBallRef Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:00am

A pissing contest over whether to adjust the air in the ball or get another ball?

"I'm not real big on being the home team equipment manager."

Good grief.

Raymond Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:56am

I just know nothing in this thread has convinced me to do anything differently than I'm doing now. ;)


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