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grunewar Tue Dec 11, 2012 05:18am

Tiff w/ Ref - Raptor Ejected!
 
Gotta admit, never seen this before........

Raptors' Amir Johnson throws mouthpiece at referee

JugglingReferee Tue Dec 11, 2012 06:25am

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Thumper68 Tue Dec 11, 2012 08:22am

Damn kids. Geez!

Raymond Tue Dec 11, 2012 08:44am

Clown....I say at least 5 games.

constable Tue Dec 11, 2012 01:23pm

What a dick. 5 games sounds reasonable.

APG Tue Dec 11, 2012 01:25pm

One game for the actual ejection and the circumstances that lead to the ejection, plus an extra game or two for charging at the official and throwing the mouthpiece. I'd expect a 2 game suspension...3 at most, but I'd honestly be surprised with that.

VaTerp Tue Dec 11, 2012 01:41pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 866249)
One game for the actual ejection and the circumstances that lead to the ejection, plus an extra game or two for charging at the official and throwing the mouthpiece. I'd expect a 2 game suspension...3 at most, but I'd honestly be surprised with that.

Rondo got two for tossing the ball at Sean Wright.

IMO, Johnson's actions are worse. After his initial BS, he decided to fire his mouthpiece at the official hitting him in the back, then has to be restrained by several teamates and coaches before leaving the floor.

I think 5 games are in order but would be surprised by that as well.

APG Tue Dec 11, 2012 02:08pm

This, IMO, isn't worthy of a five game suspension...short of physical contact with the official, past precedent hasn't called for five games. The mouthpiece bit and having to be restrained will add on a game...maybe two...for failure to leave in a timely fashion. I'd say 3 games max. Of course, this is without knowing what went into the league report.

Raymond Tue Dec 11, 2012 02:19pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 866268)
This, IMO, isn't worthy of a five game suspension...short of physical contact with the official, past precedent hasn't called for five games. The mouthpiece bit and having to be restrained will add on a game...maybe two...for failure to leave in a timely fashion. I'd say 3 games max. Of course, this is without knowing what went into the league report.

Would it be different if he threw a water bottle and it hit Jones in the back?

In my book, throwing an object and hitting a human target constitutes physical contact.

APG Tue Dec 11, 2012 02:33pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 866273)
Would it be different if he threw a water bottle and it hit Jones in the back?

In my book, throwing an object and hitting a human target constitutes physical contact.

I'm looking at this from what I think will be used as criteria in determining length of suspension. No, I don't think the NBA views throwing a mouthpiece and hitting an official the same as intentionally and physically contacting an official. Would it be different if it was a water bottle? Possible as it could be argued that there's a greater possibility for injury.

maven Tue Dec 11, 2012 03:26pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 866277)
No, I don't think the NBA views throwing a mouthpiece and hitting an official the same as intentionally and physically contacting an official. Would it be different if it was a water bottle? Possible as it could be argued that there's a greater possibility for injury.

Yeah, but it's gross.

Eastshire Tue Dec 11, 2012 03:33pm

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Originally Posted by maven (Post 866314)
Yeah, but it's gross.

And it should be viewed as spitting at the official.

JugglingReferee Tue Dec 11, 2012 03:53pm

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Originally Posted by Eastshire (Post 866320)
And it should be viewed as spitting at the official.

Alomar got 5 games and donated $50k to ALD.

grunewar Tue Dec 11, 2012 04:04pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 866330)

Five out of 162......Three out of 81?

maven Tue Dec 11, 2012 04:05pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 866333)
Five out of 162......Three out of 81?

Now Billy's going to complain about math.

BillyMac Tue Dec 11, 2012 05:16pm

Let Me Whip Out My Trusty Slide Rule ...
 
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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 866333)
Five out of 162. Three out of 81?

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Originally Posted by maven (Post 866334)
Now Billy's going to complain about math.

Damn right I am. Don't they play 82 games in an NBA season?

JRutledge Tue Dec 11, 2012 05:22pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 866347)
Damn right I am. Don't they play 82 games in an NBA season?

They did not last year. ;)

Peace

grunewar Tue Dec 11, 2012 05:33pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 866347)
Damn right I am. Don't they play 82 games in an NBA season?

I allotted a minus one game for our annual Snowmageddon on the east coast! :p

twocentsworth Tue Dec 11, 2012 06:05pm

Talk about EGO's getting in the way....

It's my ball!
No! It's mine!
No it's not!
Yes it is!

Suspend 'em both, I say.

JRutledge Tue Dec 11, 2012 06:14pm

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Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 866354)
Talk about EGO's getting in the way....

It's my ball!
No! It's mine!
No it's not!
Yes it is!

Suspend 'em both, I say.

I am going to take a guess, that a little more was said to the official than "my ball."

And there seems to be this bad habit of players wanting to kiss the ball and taken the ball while in the official's hands. Not sure I would want the ball ripped out of my hands without a better reason than I have seen.

Peace

rekent Tue Dec 11, 2012 06:26pm

The comments on this over on the ESPN board are hilarious...

- Its tradition and refs should stay out of the way.
- Refs have no clue what they are doing and are power hungry.
- NBA needs replacement refs.
and on and on and on...

People just don't seem to get the [lack of] respect for the game and respect for the officials aspect of the player's actions.

fiasco Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:08am

One game, per ESPN.


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