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bainsey Sun Dec 09, 2012 06:15pm

Team 6th foul "mechanic"
 
Does anyone have a certain mechanic, proper or otherwise, that communicates to your partner(s) that the 6th team foul is in the books, and to identify a shooter on the next ones?

OKREF Sun Dec 09, 2012 06:23pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 865885)
Does anyone have a certain mechanic, proper or otherwise, that communicates to your partner(s) that the 6th team foul is in the books, and to identify a shooter on the next ones?

You look at him and say bonus on next foul.

JugglingReferee Sun Dec 09, 2012 06:35pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 865885)
Does anyone have a certain mechanic, proper or otherwise, that communicates to your partner(s) that the 6th team foul is in the books, and to identify a shooter on the next ones?

I look at my partner(s) and say "{colour} has {type of bonus} on the next foul".

{type of bonus} could be "single", "double", "1 and 1", "automatic". You get the idea.

I have no problems if the coaches, players or fans hear me.

SAK Sun Dec 09, 2012 06:36pm

In different areas I have seen different communications on this. When I lived in the Philadelphia area we would simply talk to remind one another that we were in the bonus on the next foul (or double bonus). Now living in Phoenix area I have seen and have heard that they like to use the 1 and 1 signal (using one hand extending the index and little fingers at the same time, and I understand that it is not an approved NFHS signal but works for crew communication) and then point the direction while continuing to extend the two fingers.

To identify the shooter, I will point at the player who was fouled and say "shooter" I will not point at the player who committed the foul however

Raymond Sun Dec 09, 2012 06:37pm

I get my partners' attention and give them the 'longhorns' signal and point towards the basket to which it applies.

APG Sun Dec 09, 2012 06:44pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 865893)
I get my partners' attention and give them the 'longhorns' signal and point towards the basket to which it applies.

Same

SAK Sun Dec 09, 2012 06:47pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 865893)
I get my partners' attention and give them the 'longhorns' signal and point towards the basket to which it applies.

Is that what we call the unapproved 1 and 1 signal, the longhorns signal? Have to remember that.

Do you point with the same hand and give the longhorn signal to the side to indicate the direction that will be shooting the bonus or to you use the other hand and traffic cop it?

Adam Sun Dec 09, 2012 06:53pm

We do the long horn signal while verbalizing the color.

Raymond Sun Dec 09, 2012 07:19pm

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Originally Posted by SAK (Post 865898)
Is that what we call the unapproved 1 and 1 signal, the longhorns signal? Have to remember that.

Do you point with the same hand and give the longhorn signal to the side to indicate the direction that will be shooting the bonus or to you use the other hand and traffic cop it?

Either or...but there is no traffic copping. I keep the signals in front of my torso.

JRutledge Sun Dec 09, 2012 09:22pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 865901)
We do the long horn signal while verbalizing the color.

That is what I do. Not a mechanic per say, just a communication tool.

Peace

26 Year Gap Sun Dec 09, 2012 09:52pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 865924)
That is what I do. Not a mechanic per say, just a communication tool.

Peace

In the same category as the pointing to the line to signify a 2 point try. The same guys that don't want you to communicate this way, are the ones who do not want you to shout guys out of the lane. Avoiding correctable error situations by communicating ahead of time or 'forgetting' who the shooter is because the ball was being taken OOB instead of to the line is for the betterment of the game IMO.

Rich Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:47pm

I get my partners' attention, give the "hook em horns" signal while saying "NEXT ONE" and pointing to the proper end of the floor.

I do the same on the ninth foul, except I use the index/middle fingers.

We don't have any schools in this area who don't put the fouls up on the board and I can only remember one time they've been wrong on the board in the area the last few years at the varsity level.

AKOFL Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:20am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 865893)
I get my partners' attention and give them the 'longhorns' signal and point towards the basket to which it applies.

same. double longhorn for bonus both ways

YooperReferee Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:14am

My partner and I just make eye contact and say "next one"!!,,, works for us

MD Longhorn Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:32am

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zm1283 Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:33am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 865939)
I get my partners' attention, give the "hook em horns" signal while saying "NEXT ONE" and pointing to the proper end of the floor.

I do the same on the ninth foul, except I use the index/middle fingers.

We don't have any schools in this area who don't put the fouls up on the board and I can only remember one time they've been wrong on the board in the area the last few years at the varsity level.

Same thing that I do.

Nevadaref Tue Dec 11, 2012 02:56am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 865893)
I get my partners' attention and give them the 'longhorns' signal and point towards the basket to which it applies.

That is fine and I know several people who do that, I just hate it when someone does this prior to the 1st attempt on a shooting foul which was the teams 6th of the half. Very confusing. It makes me unsure if the partner is trying to tell me that this is a 1-and-1, if he is asking me if this is a 1-and-1, or communicating about the next foul by this team. There is nothing wrong with a little extra communication, but for heaven's sake, pick a better time to do it!

tomegun Tue Dec 11, 2012 09:44am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 866147)
That is fine and I know several people who do that, I just hate it when someone does this prior to the 1st attempt on a shooting foul which was the teams 6th of the half. Very confusing. It makes me unsure if the partner is trying to tell me that this is a 1-and-1, if he is asking me if this is a 1-and-1, or communicating about the next foul by this team. There is nothing wrong with a little extra communication, but for heaven's sake, pick a better time to do it!

Good to know. I will do that the next time we have a game together. :D

Rich Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:04am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 866147)
That is fine and I know several people who do that, I just hate it when someone does this prior to the 1st attempt on a shooting foul which was the teams 6th of the half. Very confusing. It makes me unsure if the partner is trying to tell me that this is a 1-and-1, if he is asking me if this is a 1-and-1, or communicating about the next foul by this team. There is nothing wrong with a little extra communication, but for heaven's sake, pick a better time to do it!

That's why I do it with verbal communication as well. "Next one" loud enough for my partners to hear.

HawkeyeCubP Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:46am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 866192)
That's why I do it with verbal communication as well. "Next one" loud enough for my partners to hear.

This, combined with "DOWN HERE."

AKOFL Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:43pm

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Originally Posted by hawkeyecubp (Post 866215)
this, combined with "down here."

+1

keith_15 Wed Dec 12, 2012 02:21pm

You will never see a "Hook 'em Horns" sign out of me, but then again, I'm a USC man.

Seriously, always communicate it orally at dead ball.

SCalScoreKeeper Fri Dec 14, 2012 01:53pm

As an scorekeeper I like to tell my colleagues on the floor when we reach #6
"(Insert first name of official) bonus/one and one or double on the next."


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