Travel on Hail Mary
 

Is there a travel on the hail mary?

If so, would you call it? Before or after it goes in?

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I dont see a travel

I don't see a travel either.

If there was a travel you call it the second the person travels. Don't wait to see if the ball goes in. Just like if you're not going to count it because time expires kill it immediately.

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travel? where?.....if I watched this 100 times, I wouldn't be able to find a travel.

I don't see a travel either.

Nope. But if it was, you call it right away, no need to wait for the ball to travel 90 feet.

It looks like, maybe, he got it with his left foot down and his right up, then steps with the left, but I'm saying maybe after watching it a dozen times in replay. Real time, first time, it wasn't something I'd even think.about.

Is that what the coach is bullhorning about?

Agree. That is pretty much what I thought. I slow motion stop frame, he only "may" have traveled...and if it is till that close upon review, the play on the field stands as called.

The coach may have been pleading that time expired. It didn't but the release was about 0.1 or 0.2....about as close as you can get without it being too late.

Echo: I don't have a travel.

I happen to have no idea. I just thought it was close and it was a great play.

Definite ???
 

If you're sure that he traveled, then sound you whistle right away. If you're not sure that he traveled, then don't call it, and enjoy the show.

If you have a travel then explain the rule he violated. He gathered the ball with one foot on the ground(his right foot). If he gathered the ball with one foot on floor he has 3 options:
1) he can remain standing on one foot (which he didn't)
2) He can jump off of this foot and land on 2 feet simultaneously( which he didn't )
3) He can step with other foot(his left foot), thus establishing pivot foot( foot that was first on ground when he caught ball, right foot) , he can then pick up pivot foot (which he did) but he must release ball with pass or shot(which he did).

You have to be able to explain using these rules to the core. These rules are well thought out and genius. Amazing how many people don't understand these. They just go by "it looks like a travel" .

Your initial premise is not a given. If the officials had called a travel and said the ball was gathered sooner, with the left foot down, I couldn't argue with that based on the video.

Looks like the big kid with the ball at the beginning of the clip travels ...

I did see a travel, but it was by the White player who attempted the three-point FGA that Blue rebounded just prior to flinging the ball toward Blue's basketball for the buzzer beater.

MTD, Sr.

I don't see pass interference either.

I was waiting for somebody to pick up on the "bunny hop" before the shot and the alleged travel.

Same here. The bunny hop was more of a concern to me than the kid who took the fling at the buzzer. We let too many shooters get away with that move.

No way this is a travel on 3 pointer. White team player 'catches ball with one foot (his left foot at :06 on video) , he then jumps off this foot and lands on 2 feet simultaneously.

any disagree that this is not walk on 3 pointer

Looking for a fight?
;)

Love a good debate or fight, especially when people call a travel and can't explain the why ....... would you call this a travel???

ok, I'll play. No, I don't disagree with you, there was no travel by the white shooter. However, the shot was this player's 2nd possession, I think there's an easy travel call on his first possession.

Ok.......how and where???

I don't have a travel at any point in this video.

Me either, I have none. I don't see how you could call a travel at any time.

APG and JumpStop
 

APG and JumpStop:

Pay close attention to the the White player (w1) who attempted the three-point FG which the Blue player (B10 rebounded and then flung the ball three-fourths of the length of the court for the buzzer beater.

W1 received a pass from W2 with both feet in contact with the court, he then raised his right foot, hopped forward off his left foot with his right foot landing first followed by his left foot, AND then jumped off both feet to shot the three-point FGA. That is traveling.

MTD, Sr.

(He recieved pass with left foot on floor- right foot is off floor at :06 , (foot already raised), (correct) (too close to call hear , initially it looked like no way he could land simultaneously but it was very close, too close to call., (player allowed to jump and shoot). Best way to view this is to enlarge screen ,press pause, put mouse arrow on red line and click on :05-07 seconds and you can slowly watch play.

Now if we have to do this to make call , should you really be calling a travel??
You are totally going by the "look " when making this call.
My personal belief is the top rated officials would never call this a travel.

Lets see. Lifts right foot, jumps off of left foot, lands with his right. Then his left foot returns to the floor, and he didn't pass or shoot the ball prior to the pivot foot returning to the floor. Travel.

Listen up whippersnapper.

I am 61 years old and this is my 42nd year as a basketball official. During those 42 years I officiated women's college basketball for 34 years (I was the first male to officiate women's college basketball in Florida and one of the first in the Southeast USA; including 18 Div. I playoff games and 20 jr. college playoff games); I officiated men's college basketball for fifteen years; and was a USA Basketball Referee for fifteen years). I have officiated over forty AAU and YBOA Boys' and Girls' National Championship Tournaments including three YBOA Girls' National Championship Games. I have officiated the Ohio Special Olympics Final Four for over twenty straight years and was chosen to officiate in the Special Olympics World Summer Games in 1999. I have been a rules interpreter, instructional chairman, and have served on IAABO National Committees and been a staffer at IAABO Camps.

Any competent basketball official will call that traveling because it was traveling. The first time I watched the play I watched in full size and I called it traveling the first time I saw it. I didn't call it by "feel", I called it because W1 traveled as defined in the rules, and I mean NFHS, NCAA, FIBA, and NBA/WNBA rules; try reading them sometime.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. MTD, Jr., called it traveling too, the first time he saw it and this is only his sixth year of officiating.

I have white catching the ball while airborne.

In a game involving major D-I schools, I doubt this type of play is ever going to be called a travel if they viewed it the same way you did.

APG:

Come on. You are better official than that. Personally, the T was too close to the play and therefore did not have a good Vertical V look at W1's FGA.

Got to run (MTD, Jr., calls it a power stroll) and get ready to officiate two boys' 10U Elite games at 08:30am in the Toledo Park & Rec. league and then get ready to watch my Better Half's alma mater (The University of Toledo Rockets) do battle with the Utah State University Aggies in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl. Go Rockets!

MTD, Jr.

Holy Toledo, they got smoked!