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BillyMac Sat Nov 17, 2012 03:22pm
For IAABO Members's Eyes Only ...
 
IAABO took the "Not Closely Guarded" signal off their signal chart this year. Had my first game of the season today, a "junior varsity" Catholic middle school game. Used the signal four times in two games. It took me a few years to get used to using the signal. I hope that it isn't going to take me a few years to get used to not using the signal.

RookieDude Sat Nov 17, 2012 03:52pm
Couldn't help myself...
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 862577)
IAABO took the "Not Closely Guarded" signal off their signal chart this year. Had my first game of the season today, a "junior varsity" Catholic middle school game. Used the signal four times in two games. It took me a few years to get used to using the signal. I hope that it isn't going to take me a few years to get used to not using the signal.
I'm not IAABO...but, by taking "the signal off their signal chart" does that mean that you CAN NOT use the signal at all, or that you ARE NOT REQUIRED to use the "closely guarded" signal?

BillyMac Sat Nov 17, 2012 06:16pm
Verboten ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 862581)
By taking "the signal off their signal chart" does that mean that you CAN NOT use the signal at all, or that you ARE NOT REQUIRED to use the "closely guarded" signal?
Our local interpreter told us not to use it anymore.

BillyMac Sat Nov 17, 2012 06:20pm
Rookie Mistake ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 862581)
I'm not IAABO...
Just what part of "For IAABO Members' Eyes Only" did you not understand? Don't ever apply for a job at MI6.

RookieDude Sat Nov 17, 2012 06:47pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 862596)
Just what part of "For IAABO Members' Eyes Only" did you not understand? Don't ever apply for a job at M16.
...i c, said the blind man to his deaf dog...

bainsey Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:34pm
We don't use that signal here, anyway. As we're taught, if they're not closely guarded, just don't signal.

APG Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:41pm
Don't get the thinking behind taking away a signal that gives additional information...its use can only help an official.

bob jenkins Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:44pm
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 862612)
We don't use that signal here, anyway. As we're taught, if they're not closely guarded, just don't signal.
Excpet that not signalling can also mean "official isn't looking" or "official forgets to do his job" or "official applies NCAAW rules to HS game".

HawkeyeCubP Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:01am
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Originally Posted by APG (Post 862613)
Don't get the thinking behind taking away a signal that gives additional information...its use can only help an official.
IMO, NCAAW has the right attitude on this. (Can't speak for men's.) Useful tools are useful when used properly.

JRutledge Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:31am
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Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP (Post 862616)
IMO, NCAAW has the right attitude on this. (Can't speak for men's.) Useful tools are useful when used properly.
The signal is in both codes. And I believe it came from the Men's side first BTW. Remember NCAAW are trying to be like the NBA, and they do not have such a signal.

Peace

JRutledge Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:32am
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 862614)
Excpet that not signalling can also mean "official isn't looking" or "official forgets to do his job" or "official applies NCAAW rules to HS game".
And that is why getting rid of the signal is silly. The signal tells everyone what you are doing and why you do not have a count.

Peace

HawkeyeCubP Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:39am
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 862618)
The signal is in both codes. And I believe it came from the Men's side first BTW. Remember NCAAW are trying to be like the NBA, and they do not have such a signal.

Peace
I'm referring to the NCAAW printed accepted practice and ability of using additional signals to help explain/sell calls and no-calls.

BktBallRef Sun Nov 18, 2012 02:31pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 862596)
Just what part of "For IAABO Members' Eyes Only" did you not understand? Don't ever apply for a job at M16.
#1, any chance to ridicule the IAABO can't be ignored.

#2, it's MI6, not M16.

RookieDude Sun Nov 18, 2012 03:27pm
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 862636)
#1, any chance to ridicule the IAABO can't be ignored.

#2, it's MI6, not M16.
...I like it...;)

...btw BBR...you've been around the block a time or two...jumping threads here a little...

what's your take on my State of Washington's interp of a "stationary elbow"?...IOW the elbow can be stationary during a pivot.

BillyMac Sun Nov 18, 2012 05:50pm
Danger, Will Robinson ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 862638)
BBR...you've been around the block a time or two...jumping threads here a little...what's your take on my State of Washington's interp of a "stationary elbow"?...the elbow can be stationary during a pivot.
Warning. This thread is about to be hijacked. Please remain calm, and stay in your seats.


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