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Old Thu Nov 08, 2012, 12:19pm
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I do love American law. Until someone actually does something, not much can be done to stop them. Always found it funny that until someone actually clubs you over the head you just have to wait for it to happen. Which brings up the philosophical question of until someone actually commits the act should they get in trouble (Minority Report)?

And it does make sense to me it's just such a catch22 for those that are involved in such situations.
Associating it back to basketball ... should you call a foul on a player before the foul is committed?
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2012, 12:24pm
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Associating it back to basketball ... should you call a foul on a player before the foul is committed?
The potential severity of what may happen are 2 different things, but yes the underlying idea is the same.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2012, 12:26pm
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Associating it back to basketball ... should you call a foul on a player before the foul is committed?
IANAL nor a LEO, but I think the correct analogy would be:

Would you call a foul before contact? And, the answer is yes, if it's a non-contact T.

In the other case, the threat *can* be a crime.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2012, 12:31pm
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Would you call a foul before contact? And, the answer is yes, if it's a non-contact T.
I agree. I was only focusing on the "until someone actually does something" part of the statement.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2012, 12:44pm
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A physical threat can be considered assault, especially if there's a legitimate reason to believe it. He had to be physically restrained by other players. I believe it.

Edit: I'm not a lawyer, but that's my understanding. Either way, no harm comes from filing.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2012, 12:57pm
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A physical threat can be considered assault, especially if there's a legitimate reason to believe it. He had to be physically restrained by other players. I believe it.

Edit: I'm not a lawyer, but that's my understanding. Either way, no harm comes from filing.
Adam, 'assault' is defined by state law, and can vary from state to state.

In my state, a threat can constitute assault if certain conditions are met.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2012, 01:01pm
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Adam, 'assault' is defined by state law, and can vary from state to state.

In my state, a threat can constitute assault if certain conditions are met.
Which is why I said "can", like most criminal terms, it varies by jurisdiction.

As for the juggler's jurisdiction, I have no idea what the Canadian ruling is.
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