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I like the no shooting on both sides much better. |
separate or not?
Another debated topic is that GHSA advises officials to not separate the players - "don't grab the players" once the melee starts. Does your association or State have different advise on this topic?
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Once they engage, just take numbers. |
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Any coaches and personnel trying to break up the fight are considered beckoned on the court. Also I would not if you or your partner can then remind benches to keep their personnel on the bench. usually at the varsity level (for a majority of schools I have worked) there will be one or two coaches that initially make sure the bench stays where they belong. |
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I agree that NFHS really needs to address this with better casebook plays. GHSA has thrown a few things our way that has caused some confusion among officials. |
Case 10.4.5A (c) and10.4.5E make it clear to me.
In both cases, FTs for players leaving the bench and FTs for players leaving and fighting offset resulting in no FTs overall. |
Indirect TF for Coach
I thought I had this figured out but now . . . not sure.
A6 enters the court but does not fight = one indirect to HC A6 enters the court and participates in fight = one indirect to HC A6 and A7 enter the court and do not fight = one indirect to HC A6 and A7 enter the court, A6 fights and A7 does not = two indirect to HC A6 and B6 enter the court, A6 fights and B6 does not = one indirect to each HC Are the above statements correct? |
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Let's mix it up a bit.
Fight begins with a live ball Flagrant personal foul by B1. After he gets up, A1 punches B1. A2 then shoves B1. A6, A7, and B8 come off the bench and fight. B12 comes off the bench.but doesn't fight. |
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2 FT's awarded to Team B Coach A gets 2 Indirects Coach B gets 1 Indirect Team B gets ball at the division line. Add 4 fouls to team A's count and 3 fouls to team B's count. |
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The bench stuff all offsets. So, if you view it as one event, then it's two flagrants on A and one on B, so B shoots 2 FTs and gets the ball. If you view it as separate events, the A shoots 2 FTs, B shoots 4 FTs and gets the ball. |
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Looking at it again
I believe coach B would also get 2 indirects now that I am looking at it again. One for players leaving the bench and one for B8 participating in the fight.
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