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rockyroad Fri Oct 26, 2012 02:28pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 860255)
So it's still considered a double violation, but with a different penalty than the normal, average, "garden variety", double violation? Interesting. I never thought of it in that manner. I've been "schooled".
It is not a double violation..that would result in some consequence other than the shooter getting a substitute throw.

bob jenkins Fri Oct 26, 2012 02:31pm
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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 860259)
It is not a double violation..that would result in some consequence other than the shooter getting a substitute throw.
Since there's no definition in the book for "double violation" you both might be right.

rockyroad Fri Oct 26, 2012 03:00pm
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 860260)
Since there's no definition in the book for "double violation" you both might be right.
Smarty pants.

Fine...simultaneous violation.

Although double violations are talked about in the case book.

rfp Fri Oct 26, 2012 03:11pm
Oops.
 
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 860247)
If A1 "shot an airball" but "the ball went in" then we have bigger issues than deciding on the correct FT enforcement.
I guess which violation does matter after all in my sitch! :o

So, yes, A-1 steps on the line and violates. The disconcertion is what was throwing me, since usually if the balls goes in you would ignore the disconcertion. But since A-1 violated you can't count the basket. So you have a simultaneous violation that's treated differently than it usually is, as BillyMac points out. So, it's an unusual case.

Thanks!

bob jenkins Fri Oct 26, 2012 03:34pm
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Originally Posted by rfp (Post 860277)
I guess which violation does matter after all in my sitch! :o

So, yes, A-1 steps on the line and violates. The disconcertion is what was throwing me, since usually if the balls goes in you would ignore the disconcertion. But since A-1 violated you can't count the basket. So you have a simultaneous violation that's treated differently than it usually is, as BillyMac points out. So, it's an unusual case.

Thanks!
It's not a simultaneous violation -- that's penalty 3.

You had penalty 4.

Adam Fri Oct 26, 2012 04:02pm
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 860254)
FED 9-1 PENALTY 4c. If a violation by a free thrower follows disconcertion by an opponent, a substitute free throw shall be awarded.
<s>9.1.3H, quoted above, says otherwise.</s>

Never mind, I see the difference now.

P90X is affecting my brain.


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