USA v. Tunisia: Continuation

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Let's try this again...hopefully this works. Until the Olympics are over, and maybe a bit afterward, I won't be able to put clips up on YouTube from Olympic games. Thanks goes out to JugglingReferee for the help.

http://www.aromascatering.net/apg/Tu...tiniuation.flv

Think this is a good clip...especially in light of the recent discussion on the player gathering the ball and being in the act of shooting from this thread:

On the shot or not

Travel. Missed call to count the basket by the official.

The right foot is the pivot foot. When it came down again to the floor before the ball was released on a try for goal, it became a travelling violation.

No basket, shoot 2 shots for the foul.

25.2.1 and 25.2.2

[APG]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Travel. Missed call to count the basket by the official.

The right foot is the pivot foot. When it came down again to the floor before the ball was released on a try for goal, it became a travelling violation.

No basket, shoot 2 shots for the foul.

25.2.1 and 25.2.2

Quite honestly, I don't think that's going to be called 9/10 times in real time.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Quite honestly, I don't think that's going to be called 9/10 times in real time.

I agree.

FIBA's 2006 training videos had a strong attention to detail and they were nice enough to include "close ones". My interpretation to that was that they want even close ones to be called as travels, when they are travelling.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Travel. Missed call to count the basket by the official.

The right foot is the pivot foot. When it came down again to the floor before the ball was released on a try for goal, it became a travelling violation.

No basket, shoot 2 shots for the foul.

25.2.1 and 25.2.2

Agree.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Travel. Missed call to count the basket by the official.

The right foot is the pivot foot. When it came down again to the floor before the ball was released on a try for goal, it became a travelling violation.

No basket, shoot 2 shots for the foul.

25.2.1 and 25.2.2

I'm not getting audio on the clip but with no sound it appears as though the official's arm goes up for the foul while the left foot is on the floor or, at worst, while both feet are in the air just before the left foot comes down.

I know the initial contact takes place with the right foot on the floor (the first time) but that may not be the contact the official was calling.

[APG]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I'm not getting audio on the clip but with no sound it appears as though the official's arm goes up for the foul while the left foot is on the floor or, at worst, while both feet are in the air just before the left foot comes down.

I know the initial contact takes place with the right foot on the floor (the first time) but that may not be the contact the official was calling.

With regard to the "technical" travel, when the foul occurred, in this play, doesn't change whether the player traveled or not.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

With regard to the "technical" travel, when the foul occurred, in this play, doesn't change whether the player traveled or not.

Right, and it's the same with regard to the whistle. The ball remains live in this case until the travel. The whistle is irrelevant for that issue.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Right, and it's the same with regard to the whistle. The ball remains live in this case until the travel. The whistle is irrelevant for that issue.

True. I was just answering relative to what the guy called and a travel didn't appear to be on his menu.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

True. I was just answering relative to what the guy called and a travel didn't appear to be on his menu.

I wouldn't signal this, even if I saw it in real time and 'called' it.