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APG Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:23pm

USA v. Tunisia: Continuation
 
Let's try this again...hopefully this works. Until the Olympics are over, and maybe a bit afterward, I won't be able to put clips up on YouTube from Olympic games. Thanks goes out to JugglingReferee for the help.

http://www.aromascatering.net/apg/Tu...tiniuation.flv

Think this is a good clip...especially in light of the recent discussion on the player gathering the ball and being in the act of shooting from this thread:

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...-shot-not.html

Camron Rust Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:31pm

On the shot, count the basket.

In fact you COULD even call a multiple foul on that shot!!! :eek:

JRutledge Sat Aug 04, 2012 01:26pm

This is in a format that my computer cannot understand. Do you have it in a better or more universal format?

Peace

APG Sat Aug 04, 2012 01:36pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 850969)
This is in a format that my computer cannot understand. Do you have it in a better or more universal format?

Peace

Try this:

http://www.aromascatering.net/apg/Tu...tiniuation.wmv

JugglingReferee Sat Aug 04, 2012 02:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 850964)
Let's try this again...hopefully this works. Until the Olympics are over, and maybe a bit afterward, I won't be able to put clips up on YouTube from Olympic games. Thanks goes out to JugglingReferee for the help.

http://www.aromascatering.net/apg/Tu...tiniuation.flv

Think this is a good clip...especially in light of the recent discussion on the player gathering the ball and being in the act of shooting from this thread:

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...-shot-not.html

Travel. Missed call to count the basket by the official.

The right foot is the pivot foot. When it came down again to the floor before the ball was released on a try for goal, it became a travelling violation.

No basket, shoot 2 shots for the foul.

25.2.1 and 25.2.2

APG Sat Aug 04, 2012 03:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 850976)
Travel. Missed call to count the basket by the official.

The right foot is the pivot foot. When it came down again to the floor before the ball was released on a try for goal, it became a travelling violation.

No basket, shoot 2 shots for the foul.

25.2.1 and 25.2.2

Quite honestly, I don't think that's going to be called 9/10 times in real time.

JugglingReferee Sat Aug 04, 2012 03:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 850979)
Quite honestly, I don't think that's going to be called 9/10 times in real time.

I agree.

FIBA's 2006 training videos had a strong attention to detail and they were nice enough to include "close ones". My interpretation to that was that they want even close ones to be called as travels, when they are travelling.

rockyroad Sat Aug 04, 2012 03:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 850976)
Travel. Missed call to count the basket by the official.

The right foot is the pivot foot. When it came down again to the floor before the ball was released on a try for goal, it became a travelling violation.

No basket, shoot 2 shots for the foul.

25.2.1 and 25.2.2

Agree.

JugglingReferee Sat Aug 04, 2012 03:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 850965)
On the shot, count the basket.

In fact you COULD even call a multiple foul on that shot!!! :eek:

If one ever needed an example of a video where a multiple could be called, this is it!

JetMetFan Sat Aug 04, 2012 04:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 850976)
Travel. Missed call to count the basket by the official.

The right foot is the pivot foot. When it came down again to the floor before the ball was released on a try for goal, it became a travelling violation.

No basket, shoot 2 shots for the foul.

25.2.1 and 25.2.2

I'm not getting audio on the clip but with no sound it appears as though the official's arm goes up for the foul while the left foot is on the floor or, at worst, while both feet are in the air just before the left foot comes down.

I know the initial contact takes place with the right foot on the floor (the first time) but that may not be the contact the official was calling.

APG Sat Aug 04, 2012 07:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 850984)
I'm not getting audio on the clip but with no sound it appears as though the official's arm goes up for the foul while the left foot is on the floor or, at worst, while both feet are in the air just before the left foot comes down.

I know the initial contact takes place with the right foot on the floor (the first time) but that may not be the contact the official was calling.

With regard to the "technical" travel, when the foul occurred, in this play, doesn't change whether the player traveled or not.

Adam Sat Aug 04, 2012 08:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 850991)
With regard to the "technical" travel, when the foul occurred, in this play, doesn't change whether the player traveled or not.

Right, and it's the same with regard to the whistle. The ball remains live in this case until the travel. The whistle is irrelevant for that issue.

JetMetFan Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 851000)
Right, and it's the same with regard to the whistle. The ball remains live in this case until the travel. The whistle is irrelevant for that issue.

True. I was just answering relative to what the guy called and a travel didn't appear to be on his menu.

BillyMac Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:04am

I Shan't ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 850965)
In fact you COULD even call a multiple foul on that shot!!!

I would, if I could, but I shouldn't, and I can't, so I won't.

Adam Sun Aug 05, 2012 04:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 851006)
True. I was just answering relative to what the guy called and a travel didn't appear to be on his menu.

I wouldn't signal this, even if I saw it in real time and 'called' it.


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