Worst Fragrant Call Ever

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I'd agree if Fisher wasn't coming forward and chucking his arms at James as if he were throwing a football block. If he had merely held his ground, he very well may have drawn the charge.

Not trying to be a jerk here, but do you honestly think that you could stand there and merely hold your ground with a guy as big as James sprinting at you like that???

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Not trying to be a jerk here, but do you honestly think that you could stand there and merely hold your ground with a guy as big as James sprinting at you like that???

No, you have to fade back or put your arms out to absorb the impact, not chuck him with your arms.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No, you have to fade back or put your arms out to absorb the impact, not chuck him with your arms.

He never actually chucked him b/c the collision caused to go backwards.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He never actually chucked him b/c the collision caused to go backwards.

Huh??? He many not have chucked him through full arm extension but he was definitely chucking himself into James at the time of contact. It was not major, and probably shouldn't have been flagrant, but it is what he did.

[APG]

That wasn't going to be an offensive foul even without Fisher using his forearm.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That wasn't going to be an offensive foul even without Fisher using his forearm.

And that is only because he was moving/chucking/lunging toward James at the time of contact. Otherwise, he had LGP. If he had merely limited his movement to the side or backwards, it could have been a charge (at least by NCAA and NFHS rules).

[Adam]

Certainly not flagrant, from my couch, and an easy block given Fisher's forward lunge at contact.

I absolutely love how he shoots his arms straight into the air as the whistle is blown. Classic.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Huh??? He many not have chucked him through full arm extension but he was definitely chucking himself into James at the time of contact. It was not major, and probably shouldn't have been flagrant, but it is what he did.

Only if you are deciding to redefine what has always been accepted as the definition of chucking, which is using your arms and extended them INTO an opponent.

What Fischer did is a body bump.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Only if you are deciding to redefine what has always been accepted as the definition of chucking, which is using your arms and extended them INTO an opponent.

What Fischer did is a body bump.

Semantics....I was merely referring to the element of the play where he emphasized and unnecessarily increased the magnitude of impact by throwing, chucking, lunging, or whatever verb you think fits, in to James. I don't limit my definition of chucking to just the arms. I don't think it was flagrant level, but he did basically do what I described. Much harder, and it should have been flagrant.

[JRutledge]

I do not think that was a FF, but I do not think it was a charge either. That is no different than a player in football running at you and then you go and make contact with them to prevent their movement. It is a "block" by the definition in football and certainly was not a legal position in basketball. I think the FF was called because the contact was initiated by Fisher and it was clear he was not playing any basketball but trying to throw his body into LBJ.

Peace