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To go 90 miles round trip would cost about $10-15 in gas alone. If it is 90 miles each direction, it would, of course, be $20-30. That just doesn't make any financial sense unless you're going to work 4+ games (and I will not be working more than 3, ever....and typically limit myself to 2). Maybe if you carpooled with 2-3 others would it start making sense a little sooner. And, If you count the real expense or driving, it would about $40-50 for 90mi. round trip. You'd have to work 2-3 games just to get out of the red....and even then, you'd only net about $10-20 (post travel expense and pre-tax) for 6-7 hours of time and effort (3 driving, 3-4 working, plus whatever you need to add to count for arriving before the game time). $2-3/hour is not exactly compelling. Too many people gloss over the real expense of travel and only count the cost of the gas. Gas is less than half the expense of travel. You have to count the cost of the car itself along with typical maintenance and repairs. Those will add up to more than the gas over the life of a car....even at today's gas prices. You just don't have to pay all of it on the day of the game.
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I was thinking about this very thing over the last few weeks. We've had a torrent of summer ball weekends and I never leave feeling the pay is that great. I need to work for the experience. But, I can see how the more experienced guys will walk.
Here is a question: How hard is it to pull all the area officials together and form a union of sorts to ask for higher game fees? I'm not a union person as a rule(another talk for another day), but in our area literally 3 assigners could bring the entire basketball officiating world to a standstill. 25 bucks is high for a summer league game. 35 for junior high, 40 frosh/jv, 55 varsity. Why not say that NO summer league games can ever be done for less than 30? Will this break the tournaments? This is thinking without knowing how the relationship between assigner and schools work, how often fees are approached, how hard it is to keep guys from breaking the line, etc. I don't know those things, but it just hurts me to think of the "true cost" of officiating once gas, car expenses, time, etc. are factored into things.
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The hucksters canot use IAABO or any the name of any other officials organization to promote their get-rich-quick scheme without the permission of the organization, and the national can delegate the authority to grant permission to local boards. That said, a lot of these AAU operators use the phrase "patched officials." Perhaps Dicky Lee is working the game. |
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When IAABO certifies the official, they have implicitly given that official the right to use and claim that certification. What good would a certification be if the certified official were barred from advertising it.
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Seems to me that if a tourney wanted to guarantee IAABO officials to the coaches when promoting their tournament, they could do so without any sort of prior arrangement. They can then either do it by calling certified officials individually or working through an established assigner.
I can tell you, around here, they would go through an assigner. Now, if we can just fix this lousy summer pay. I know that'll only happen when enough people are willing to refuse to work for this pay rate.
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No idea about the law, but playing the hypothetical game...
Suppose a building was being built paying far below union wages. The builder is able to hire all union employees who are not working union jobs and they are not hired through the union hall. Do you think it would be okay to advertise that the building was built by union workers? |
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Sure, there are going to be rogue groups who'll work for anything but what we've found is, for the most part, they're not trained well and the product shows. That's another huge consideration. If you don't care enough about your product to pay the officials a decent wage, where else are you cutting corners? Security, perhaps? It all factors into the equation, as well as the wear and tear on our bodies, vehicles, etc.
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Still, if it was actually built by union workers, there is not much the union can do to stop them from claiming it was...it is merely the statement of a simple fact. They may not be able to cite that it was done so by a specific union or use the union's logo, but that is different than references to the general fact that the workers were members of the union.
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I've done AAU just about every weekend since March (in Mass. and Conn.) and most of the tourneys in Conn. (from Hartford north, anyway) are gobbled up by the same assignor. He pays $28 -- by check. In Mass., there are several tournaments that are $35 cash up front before you ever throw the ball up (the rest are $30 -- never less), so we sometimes moan about the $28-by-check scenario. Never knew how good we had it. One local program pays $25 cash just to come to their gym and officiate scrimmages w/o a book, so you don't even have to report fouls. I'm sorry to hear of the plight of brother officials from other areas of the country. |
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