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APG Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:56am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 845614)
Cool, but given how close it is - with Battier's right foot not settling until Pierce has a toe on the floor - I can see how this was called a block.

This was called a block because in the NBA, a player must get to the spot before the player starts his upward motion with the ball rather than when the player becomes airborne a la NFHS/NCAA. In the clip above, Battier is still sliding to the spot after Pierce starts his upward with the ball...too late under NBA rules...while NFHS/NCAA you still have yourself a little bit more time to get legal.

bainsey Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:56am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 845607)
Agreed...I was thinking charge all the way from sideline view.

Once I saw the endline view, I immediately switched to block. He never made it entirely in front of him and was still sliding sideways into his path at the time of contact.

+1

My motivation for requesting this video is that I had a charge, and perhaps others could see something that I didn't. I didn't see the end line view at the time.

As soon as I saw the view from the end line, I got it. Easy block. I suppose this could be an illustration of how vital angles really are.

tref Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:03am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 845652)
+1

My motivation for requesting this video is that I had a charge, and perhaps others could see something that I didn't. I didn't see the end line view at the time.

As soon as I saw the view from the end line, I got it. Easy block. I suppose this could be an illustration of how vital angles really are.

Im leaning toward a block under all 3 codes as the defender never obtained LGP. It's not like he was sliding to the left to maintain anything. Close, but he was still trying to get there IMHO.

JRutledge Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:43am

I have a charge in the rules I am used to. I would suspect this is also a charge in the NBA based on what I know, but I am not totally sure about that.

Peace

JWP Tue Jun 12, 2012 02:02pm

Defender was late
 
When I first saw it, I thought block. In super slow-mo, I still have block, and an appreciation of what a good call it was.

JetMetFan Tue Jun 12, 2012 03:28pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 845651)
This was called a block because in the NBA, a player must get to the spot before the player starts his upward motion with the ball rather than when the player becomes airborne a la NFHS/NCAA. In the clip above, Battier is still sliding to the spot after Pierce starts his upward with the ball...too late under NBA rules...while NFHS/NCAA you still have yourself a little bit more time to get legal.

Thanks, APG. Just checked that out in the NBA rule book. I didn't realize there was that subtle difference. So I can feel better about calling a block :)

http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/me...-Rule-Book.pdf

tref Tue Jun 12, 2012 04:09pm

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 845698)
Thanks, APG. Just checked that out in the NBA rule book. I didn't realize there was that subtle difference. So I can feel better about calling a block :)

Just out of curiousity, why wouldn't this be a block in your HS &/or NCAA games?

JetMetFan Tue Jun 12, 2012 04:43pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 845703)
Just out of curiousity, why wouldn't this be a block in your HS &/or NCAA games?

In a live/on court view it probably would be. However, the pic BillyMac posted shows Battier did obtain LGP under NFHS and NCAA codes since he had two feet on the floor and was facing Pierce before Pierce went airborne, meaning it was a PC foul under those two codes.

tref Tue Jun 12, 2012 05:00pm

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 845711)
In a live/on court view it probably would be. However, the pic BillyMac posted shows Battier did obtain LGP under NFHS and NCAA codes since he had two feet on the floor and was facing Pierce before Pierce went airborne, meaning it was a PC foul under those two codes.

Okay, but its tough to see that right foot sliding to gain LGP at the point of contact in a pic.


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