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jump stop Sun May 13, 2012 07:50am

Travel or "looks bad" video
 
Why or Why not was this a good call??

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BillyMac Sun May 13, 2012 08:04am

Let's Look At It From Another Angle ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jump stop (Post 841593)
Why or Why not was this a good call??

White 22 blocks our view of the ball handler's pivot foot. The lead official, without White 22 blocking his view, must have observed an extra step that we can't see.

rockyroad Sun May 13, 2012 09:54am

Watch his left foot...

Rob1968 Sun May 13, 2012 10:12am

Almost a good jump-stop
 
At first, I thought this must be a bad call, that it was a classic jump-stop, NF 4-44-2 a 3, (control in the air, come down on one foot, followed by landing on both feet simultaneously.)
Then, having watched the video a few more times, I noticed that it appears that he dragged the tip of his right foot, between the landing on the left and the subsequent landing on both.
That would justify the travel call, NF 4-44-2 a 2. If that's what the Lead saw, it was a correct call, IMO.

Mark Padgett Sun May 13, 2012 10:35am

The official isn't going to call a travel just because it "looks bad". I had a game a few years ago in which coach A kept saying I should "call something" on B1 who was the other team's point guard because when he dribbled, his dribble "looked ugly". I told coach A that if "looking ugly" was against the rules, he wouldn't be allowed in the gym.

We were friends and he just laughed.

APG Sun May 13, 2012 10:52am

Embed Is Your Friend
 
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I can't tell either way if the call is correct or not due to the quality of the clip.

Camron Rust Sun May 13, 2012 12:16pm

I would not have a travel on what I saw.

JRutledge Sun May 13, 2012 12:29pm

You cannot see what he does with the pivot foot from the angle of the camera. The official of course has a different angle. Who knows if he actually got it right or not.

Peace

jump stop Tue May 15, 2012 03:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 841618)
I would not have a travel on what I saw.

That is my take, I didn't see a violation . Video not the best but looks like good move

bainsey Tue May 15, 2012 04:11pm

Legal play. Left foot is the pivot foot, jumped from it to simultaneouly both feet landing.

APG Tue May 15, 2012 04:14pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 842014)
Legal play. Left foot is the pivot foot, jumped from it to simultaneouly both feet landing.

The left foot isn't the pivot foot...assuming this is a legal play, and assuming you believe he gathered the ball with the left foot on the floor, the player hasn't established a pivot foot and with him jumping off the foot and landing simultaneously he has no pivot foot.

bainsey Tue May 15, 2012 04:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 842015)
assuming you believe he gathered the ball with the left foot on the floor....

Right, that's what I have.

So, of course, there's no pivot foot on a jump stop, but prior to the jump, what's a succinct and correct way of saying "the left was the pivot foot" (or is this about tense..."was" as opposed to "is")?

BillyMac Tue May 15, 2012 05:37pm

Words With Friends ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 842018)
So, of course, there's no pivot foot on a jump stop, but prior to the jump, what's a succinct and correct way of saying "the left was the pivot foot" (or is this about tense..."was" as opposed to "is")?

Looks like bainsey is trying out his Bill Clinton impersonation again.

APG Tue May 15, 2012 06:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 842018)
Right, that's what I have.

So, of course, there's no pivot foot on a jump stop, but prior to the jump, what's a succinct and correct way of saying "the left was the pivot foot" (or is this about tense..."was" as opposed to "is")?

The player gathered the ball/ended his dribble with his left foot on the floor.

bainsey Tue May 15, 2012 11:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 842025)
Looks like bainsey is trying out his Bill Clinton impersonation again.

The sad truth is, I actually didn't have sexual relations with that woman.

APG, if the "player gathered the ball/ended his dribble with his left foot on the floor," wouldn't that left foot be the pivot foot (until the jump stop, of course)?


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