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Toren Mon May 07, 2012 11:58pm

Issuing a Technical
 
Okay tonight I had a varsity boys game, 2 man mechanics. A10 had already picked up one technical from my partner in the 1st half (20 minute running clock). Mid way through the second half I have a standard call on A10, nothing which I felt was even noteworthy.

Coach A gets ready to sub him out. I'm at half court and A10 is walking off the court. From the 3 point line to half court, where I was he is just staring at me. He walks past me and his head turns and he still is staring at me, I could see it out of my peripheral. I turn and deliver his second T.

Coach asked the player what he said, player said "nothing". I said "he stared at me coach." After the Technical, I decided to give coach a little more explanation because he told his players not to look at me anymore.

I told the coach, "You know I'm not oversensitive, coach, but your player took 10 steps and stared me down the whole way, he wanted that T." Coach said "you're right."

But I'm wondering honestly...even though this is HTBT moment, was I a little too thin skinned? I seldom question my technicals, but this one I am.

JetMetFan Tue May 08, 2012 12:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toren (Post 840661)
Okay tonight I had a varsity boys game, 2 man mechanics. A10 had already picked up one technical from my partner in the 1st half (20 minute running clock). Mid way through the second half I have a standard call on A10, nothing which I felt was even noteworthy.

Coach A gets ready to sub him out. I'm at half court and A10 is walking off the court. From the 3 point line to half court, where I was he is just staring at me. He walks past me and his head turns and he still is staring at me, I could see it out of my peripheral. I turn and deliver his second T.

Coach asked the player what he said, player said "nothing". I said "he stared at me coach." After the Technical, I decided to give coach a little more explanation because he told his players not to look at me anymore.

I told the coach, "You know I'm not oversensitive, coach, but your player took 10 steps and stared me down the whole way, he wanted that T." Coach said "you're right."

But I'm wondering honestly...even though this is HTBT moment, was I a little too thin skinned? I seldom question my technicals, but this one I am.

Did you feel as though he was trying to intimidate you? If the answer is "yes" don't question yourself.

Toren Tue May 08, 2012 01:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 840668)
Did you feel as though he was trying to intimidate you? If the answer is "yes" don't question yourself.

Thanks. I have no doubt he was trying to intimidate me.

Maybe I question my initial explanation...I was too brief perhaps and I felt when coach told his players not to look at me that I had sent the wrong message.

Camron Rust Tue May 08, 2012 01:45am

Even the coach agreed with you after the explanation. Assuming he was sincere, why question yourself. If the coach agrees with you, it seems like a solid call.

vbzebra Tue May 08, 2012 05:42am

exact situation on the interweb. 2000 nba playoffs, a younger Ron Garretson "Whack! Get out!" to Rasheed Wallace. Staring and trying to intimidate. Outstanding!!:D

Funny Rasheed Wallace Ejection - YouTube

Maineac Tue May 08, 2012 07:34am

Righteous T.

Toren Tue May 08, 2012 09:22am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 840671)
Even the coach agreed with you after the explanation. Assuming he was sincere, why question yourself. If the coach agrees with you, it seems like a solid call.

I wasn't so sure he was sincere, but this morning I'm feeling you are correct. He said it straight faced and didn't say anything afterwards so I shouldn't try to figure out if he was sincere.

Toren Tue May 08, 2012 09:23am

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Originally Posted by vbzebra (Post 840681)
exact situation on the interweb. 2000 nba playoffs, a younger Ron Garretson "Whack! Get out!" to Rasheed Wallace. Staring and trying to intimidate. Outstanding!!:D

Funny Rasheed Wallace Ejection - YouTube


I didn't have a "Whack" though...I also liked how he explained it much better. I should have used the word intimidate because that's what the kid was trying to do.

Thanks for posting

tref Tue May 08, 2012 09:28am

"Whack, get out... get away from me Steve!"

Funny stuff :D

ref3808 Tue May 08, 2012 09:34am

I have to think other players on the floor were well aware of what was going on and measuring your reaction. I'd T him without thinking twice.

Rob1968 Tue May 08, 2012 09:39am

It takes two . . .
 
I would never know if a player was staring at me for ten steps, because I never spend that much time looking at them :) Maybe, that's why you're questioning the T . . .:)

tref Tue May 08, 2012 09:48am

Look at me now
 
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Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 840718)
I would never know if a player was staring at me for ten steps, because I never spend that much time looking at them :) Maybe, that's why you're questioning the T . . .:)

Good point, I think Sheed got 3 steps before the hammer was dropped.

JRutledge Tue May 08, 2012 12:17pm

Considering this is summer ball or off-season type ball, I would not put up with much crap. This time should be to teach kids how to play, not tell you how to do your job. I have a much shorter fuse for these games in general. They are not paying me enough and there is not the same structure. We allow other things to do so these kids can play, I am not taking their crap as a result.

Peace

26 Year Gap Tue May 08, 2012 04:14pm

Maybe your second explanation should have been your first explanation, but other than that, there really isn't anything you could have done differently. It was deserved, you gave it, and there were no more problems from A-10. Chances are that the coach has not had a dreamy time at practice with this kid.

Adam Tue May 08, 2012 04:36pm

"Coach, I felt he was trying to intimidate me."

When a player (or coach) engages in the silent stare down, they risk the officials' reactions and they know it. They hope to be able to respond with "but I didn't say anything."

Nice job, Toren.


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