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WreckRef Tue May 08, 2012 03:22pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 839614)
Yesterday, shot, rebound, shot, rebound, shot, rebound....

The entire defensive bench (players & coaches) is yelling "3-seconds, 3-seconds....".

Foul (partner called it).

I'm by the bench and turn to them and say...."that sounds good except that the count starts over after every shot" (didn't get into the actual specifics of when it really starts and stops).

They all look at each other and say "Oh, oops" and chuckle.....a half dozen people will now have one less thing to be goofy over.

Nice. However, I raise you with this situation I had last weekend.

Middle School girls, 6th grade, about 3 seconds to go. I'm the L administering on the end line, when my arm completes it's 4th swing a guy in the stands starts screaming, "Why aren't you calling 3 seconds in the key?!?!?!?!" :eek:

Freddy Wed May 09, 2012 10:30am

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Originally Posted by WreckRef (Post 840790)
. . . a guy in the stands starts screaming, "Why aren't you calling 3 seconds in the key?!?!?!?!" :eek:

You should've replied, "Sorry, I was caught up watching that the thrower-inner didn't move his feet so that I'd have to call 'Travelling.'" :D

Boys' V coach, early this past season: "He's in the lane! He's in the lane! How come you're not calling that????"
Me, at C: "Coach, the ball's still in the backcourt."
Coach: (quiet rest of the game) :o

onetime1 Wed May 09, 2012 10:47am

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 840913)
You should've replied, "Sorry, I was caught up watching that the thrower-inner didn't move his feet so that I'd have to call 'Travelling.'" :D

Boys' V coach, early this past season: "He's in the lane! He's in the lane! How come you're not calling that????"
Me, at C: "Coach, the ball's still in the backcourt."
Coach: (quiet rest of the game) :o

Yea I agree most coaches are dumb guys and dont know this.

rockyroad Wed May 09, 2012 12:55pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 840913)
Boys' V coach, early this past season: "He's in the lane! He's in the lane! How come you're not calling that????"
Me, at C: "Coach, the ball's still in the backcourt."
Coach: (quiet rest of the game) :o

I had the exact same situation in a Varsity game this past season...

Coach: "Look at him! He's camping in there! Why aren't you calling 3 seconds?!!?"

Me: "Coach, I got a 10 second count going here. Can't do both."

Coach: "Crap! I'm sorry."

Apologized profusely between quarters and didn't say much the rest of the game. Just smiled and told him "no big deal, coach."

Freddy Wed May 09, 2012 01:52pm

Caveat ! ! !
 
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Originally Posted by onetime1 (Post 840923)
Yea I agree most coaches are dumb guys and dont know this.

Hey, hey there...careful, cowboy. I used to be one.
And some of them really are quite smart.
But that's okay, I'm not sensitive.
Only to the phrase "Don't Be a Plumber about It." :D

WreckRef Wed May 09, 2012 11:43pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 840913)
You should've replied, "Sorry, I was caught up watching that the thrower-inner didn't move his feet so that I'd have to call 'Travelling.'" :D

Boys' V coach, early this past season: "He's in the lane! He's in the lane! How come you're not calling that????"
Me, at C: "Coach, the ball's still in the backcourt."
Coach: (quiet rest of the game) :o

Funny you should mention that...

Monday, 8th grade boys game. I'm the T administering on the sideline directly in front of B's bench. A1 shuffles his feet and moves maybe 6-12 inches. The coach starts yelling, "He's travelling!!!!!!!!!! Call it!!!!!!"

After the ball is inbounded, I call a foul on B1, walk towards the table with the coaching staring at me with a, "WTF" look on his face. I say, "Coach, there's no travelling or dribbling rules during a throw in, I'll show you the book after the game if you want." Coach looked at me even more puzzled than before. All I could do was laugh inside.

Smitty Thu May 10, 2012 07:15am

Why are people surprised that someone coaching an 8th grade rec team (or any rec team for that matter) doesn't know the rules? They probably have never read (or seen) the rule books.

JetMetFan Fri May 11, 2012 05:33am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 839655)
I preferred it as well, for the same reasons, so I hope IAABO goes back. I'd rather see them give it more time, and give the officials who are working 3-whistle more time to work on learning when to communicate and when to turn away. If you're working games with three, it's a good time to learn.

Of course, the games where a coach is more likely to yell 50 feet across the court don't usually have three officials.

Just a thought but the one reason I can think of for IAABO delaying a return to the table-side mechanic has to do as much with us as the coaches. Some folks in stripes just can't shut up, especially the ones who should get into the book more often. When you combine that with coaches who can't shut up *and* have shaky rules knowledge nothing good can happen.

JetMetFan Fri May 11, 2012 05:40am

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Originally Posted by WreckRef (Post 841062)
Funny you should mention that...

Monday, 8th grade boys game. I'm the T administering on the sideline directly in front of B's bench. A1 shuffles his feet and moves maybe 6-12 inches. The coach starts yelling, "He's travelling!!!!!!!!!! Call it!!!!!!"

After the ball is inbounded, I call a foul on B1, walk towards the table with the coaching staring at me with a, "WTF" look on his face. I say, "Coach, there's no travelling or dribbling rules during a throw in, I'll show you the book after the game if you want." Coach looked at me even more puzzled than before. All I could do was laugh inside.

My enjoyable call from a long time ago: I'm the L in a two-man crew. A1 is in the lane, puts up a shot, misses everything and grabs the rebound.

As the ball touches his hands I start preparing for B's coach to yell for a travel....which he does (actually, he started yelling "That's a self-pass!").

The T came when he lost it after A1 hit the put-back and was fouled.


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